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Intel Core i9-13900K "Raptor Lake" Overclocked to 8 GHz Frequency with LN2

Intel Core i9-13900K "Raptor Lake" Overclocked to 8 GHz Frequency with LN2

With even higher frequencies to come, according to the unnamed overclocker. Could Intel take the clock speed crown away from AMD?

It's been more than a decade since Intel achieved an overclocked frequency record beyond 8 GHz. The only Intel chips that show up in the 8 GHz+ lists at HWBOT are the old Celeron and Pentium 4 parts dating back to the early 2000s. However, Intel is going to change this next month with its 13th Generation Raptor Lake CPUs.

Currently, the highest frequency record still belongs to AMD's FX-8370 which sits at an insane 8.72 GHz. Intel's Celeron D352 takes up the fifth spot with an overclocked frequency of 8.61 GHz. So far, there have been no modern Core or Ryzen CPUs that have managed to break past the 8 GHz clock barrier. The Intel Core i9-10900K was the last modern chip to achieve a high clock rating of 7.7 GHz a few years back. Overclockers are now gearing up to once again achieve overclocks beyond 8 GHz with the Raptor Lake chips such as the Core i9-13900K.

We managed to secure an overclocked result of the Intel Core i9-13900K Raptor Lake CPU from an overclocker whose currently testing the chip on an unreleased Z790 motherboard. We can't say the name or model of the manufacturer or brand that the board is from but it is going to be a real high end variant. The overclocker stated that he was easily able to push the 13900K Raptor Lake up to 8 GHz using LN2 cooling and with a voltage of 1.792V.

Source: Wccftech

 

[Riptide]

They may. But will they burn your house down doing it?

EDIT:
Wow, not a lot of reason to upgrade from Z690-->Z790 it seems.

 

[Nunz]

They may. But will they burn your house down doing it?

EDIT:
Wow, not a lot of reason to upgrade from Z690-->Z790 it seems.

There will be. I suspect lots of OC potential and the IMC for DDR5 is expected to take much higher frequencies. Tied with the new Hynix memory chips (code A-DIE) that are hitting 7800CL32 with low voltage, this will absolutely murder DDR4.

People with good AlderLake IMC's are hitting crazy numbers on Hynix A-Die. There's a few guys testing max frequencies and someone has validations at over 9000Mhz on the RAM. Crazy!

 

[Riptide]

I wonder if the Kingston Renegade CL32 6400 stuff I just got is A-Die. Hmmm...

If I do end up going with a 13th gen Intel setup over AM5 looks like the Z690 might be a great option to save some money over vs. Z790.

 

[Nunz]

I wonder if the Kingston Renegade CL32 6400 stuff I just got is A-Die. Hmmm...

If I do end up going with a 13th gen Intel setup over AM5 looks like the Z690 might be a great option to save some money over vs. Z790.

The Kingston kit is M-Die. A-Die is not out in mainstream kits right now; most are ordering it direct from Taiwan. It's not out for "normies" just yet.

I would hold out. Z690 boards and the CPU IMC seem to be the limitations for DDR5 frequency. A-Die seems to require much less voltage, which is easing the motherboard requirements, but it's not the entire problem.

I suspect Z790 boards and RPL chips will break 8000 stable for many overclockers.

 

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Non-K 13th-Gen Core i5 CPUs Based on Older "Alder Lake" Architecture?

Non-K 13th-Gen Core i5 CPUs Based on Older "Alder Lake" Architecture?

This is another case of confusing and misleading nomenclature from a major company.

Remember how 12th Gen Core i5 non-K was vastly different in performance from the Core i5 K/KF on account of being 6P+0E processors in comparison to more L3 cache and a 6P+4E core-count of the i5-12600K/KF? Intel is doubling down on creating architectural confusion in the mid-range, according to a 3DCenter.org article citing a leaked slide from Intel's 13th Gen Core launch press-deck.

We had earlier thought that the 13th Gen non-K Core i5 will have a 6P+4E core-config, but still be based on "Raptor Lake" (i.e. "Raptor Cove" P-cores + "Gracemont" E-cores), in comparison to the i5-13600K/KF, which are confirmed "Raptor Lake" chips with 6P+8E configuration; but it turns out that Intel is basing the non-K 13th Gen Core i5 on the older "Alder Lake" microarchitecture. These chips will be 6P+4E (that's six "Golden Cove" P-cores + four "Gracemont" E-cores), which make them essentially identical to the i5-12600K, but without the unlocked multiplier, and a lower 65 W processor base power.

Sources: techPowerUp!, 3DCenter.org

 

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Intel Canada Leaks First Wave of Core "Raptor Lake" Desktop Processors

Intel Canada Leaks First Wave of Core "Raptor Lake" Desktop Processors

The official launch of the thirteenth generation of Intel’s Core CPUs is only two weeks away.

In an article explaining how to choose the right desktop processor with examples, Intel Canada accidentally leaked the Core i9-13900K, i7-13700K, and i5-13600K processors. The article has since been corrected with their 12th Gen predecessors, but not before screenshots made it to social media. The screenshots confirm the core-count of the i5-13600K to be 14-core/20-thread (6P+8E), the i7-13700K to be 16-core/24-thread (8P+8E), and the flagship i9-13900K to be 20-core/32-thread (8P+16E). It also mentions their clock speeds to be 5.10 GHz P-core boost for the i5-13600K, 5.30 GHz for the i7-13700K, and 5.40 GHz for the i9-13900K; however leaked press-deck slides list these as maximum Turbo Boost 2.0 frequencies. The Boost Max 3.0 and Thermal Velocity Boost frequencies are much higher. In case of the i9-13900K, it can be as high as 5.80 GHz. Intel is expected to launch its 13th Gen Core desktop processor series on September 27.

Sources: techPowerUp!, Intel Canada, momomo_us (Twitter), VideoCardz.com

 

[acroig]

Can't wait!

 

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Early Core i9-13900K Review Hints That It Holds Up to the "20-40" Claim

Early Core i9-13900K Review Hints That It Holds Up to the "20-40" Claim

Unfortunately, the review on Billibilli, the original source of the benchmarks, appears to have been taken down.

An early review of a retail Intel Core i9-13900K "Raptor Lake" 8P+16E processor shows it holding up to the rumored "20-40" claim, the idea that the processor can be up to 20% faster in gaming, and up to 40% faster in productivity, compared to the current i9-12900K. Much of the gaming performance increase is attributed to the higher IPC of the new "Raptor Cove" P-cores, and the much higher boost clocks they run at (up to 5.80 GHz); whereas the multi-threaded performance boost comes from not just the faster P-cores, but a doubling in the E-core count to 16, and improved E-core cache structures, besides higher clock speeds that they run on. For tests that scale across P-cores and E-cores, the i9-13900K behaves like a 24-core/32-thread processor, which is what it is. Among the tests included are CSGO, AIDA64, 7-Zip, WinRAR, Cinebench R15, R20, and R23; and their average, in comparison to the i9-12900K.

Sources: techPowerUp!, ECSM_Official (Bilibili), VideoCardz.com

 

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Intel’s 13th-Gen "Raptor Lake" CPUs Are Official, Launch October 20

Intel’s 13th-Gen "Raptor Lake" CPUs Are Official, Launch October 20

I can’t wait for reviews to be published, which I expect will happen around the same as October 20, the launch/availability date.

Intel is announcing three new CPUs today, each with and without integrated graphics (per usual, the models with no GPUs have an "F" at the end): the Core i9-13900K, Core i7-13700K, and Core i5-13600K will launch on October 20 alongside new Z790 chipsets and motherboards. They will also work in all current-generation 600-series motherboards as long as your motherboard maker has provided a BIOS update, and will continue to support both DDR4 and DDR5 memory.

Raptor Lake uses the hybrid architecture that Intel introduced in its 12th-generation Alder Lake chips last year—a combination of large performance cores (P-cores) that keep games and other performance-sensitive applications running quickly, plus clusters of smaller efficiency cores (E-cores) that use less power—though in our testing across laptops and desktops, it's clear that "efficiency" is more about the number of cores can be fit into a given area on a CPU die, and less about lower overall system power consumption.

Source: Ars Technica

 

[pax]

https://twitter.com/RedGamingTech/status/1574797664096501762/photo/1

Pretty modest perf increase over the 12900k. 5800X3D beats it in some games.

The X3D 7k gen will beat bit easily I think if it gets the same uplift the 5800X3D got over the vanilla one.

 

[acroig]

13700K on Z690 FTW?

 

[Shapeshifter]

 

[pax]

Whats funny in the original slide is that intel only showed the 5800X3D as a small orange line instead of a full bar. AMD during the 7000 gen showcase pretty much ignored the 5800X3D. Its like both AMD and Intel wanted to ignore the fact that both their new lines of cpus were getting beat by it bad in many cases.

 

[Nagorak]

Whats funny in the original slide is that intel only showed the 5800X3D as a small orange line instead of a full bar. AMD during the 7000 gen showcase pretty much ignored the 5800X3D. Its like both AMD and Intel wanted to ignore the fact that both their new lines of cpus were getting beat by it bad in many cases.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that 7800X3D is going to crush everything in gaming, considering the newer gens are being a bit embarrassed by the 5800X3D.

 

[pax]

Youd think intel could cut a few of its ecores and slap an sram chiplet in there instead. Be fun to see if amd does ecores in its 8k gen and intel does 3d or chiplet cache for gaming in their 14k's next go around.

 

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Unannounced 34-Core Raptor Lake CPUs Accidentally Displayed at Innovation 2022

Unannounced 34-Core Raptor Lake CPUs Accidentally Displayed at Innovation 2022

The Raptor Lake lineup currently maxes out at 24 cores.

A closer look at the wafer implies that the design is not of the standard Raptor Lake CPUs. As you can see, the cores aren't aligned horizontally in two rows as we see with the typical Raptor Lake die (you can see an Intel diagram of the Raptor Lake-S desktop chips in the second slide of the above album, and the actual die at the end of the article).

Additionally, the 34 cores appear interconnected with a mesh, like the Ice Lake models (third album image), and not the familiar ring bus we see with Intel's desktop PC chips. We can also make out eight DDR5 memory controllers and what appear to be UPI blocks, all of which are not on the standard desktop PC models.

This is likely what is known as the Sapphire Rapids MCC die, but with Raptor Lake branding for the workstation market. We're working on further clarification.

Source: Tom’s Hardware

 

[andino]

I'm assuming that is a HEDT cpu?

 

[Android1]

I'm assuming that is a HEDT cpu?

That would be a reasonable assumption.

I wonder how much lower the clock speeds will be compared to the 13900K.

 

[andino]

https://wccftech.com/intel-34-core-raptor-lake-s-cpu-die-shown-off-hinting-at-possible-hedt-launch/

Simply looking at the size of each of the Raptor Cove cores on the wafer, it looks like this specific configuration has larger cores than the ones featured on the mainstream lineup. As of right now, Intel has only released up to 24 cores and 32 thread dies. This top die will be featured on the flagship Core i9-13900K & Core i9-13900KS chips that were announced yesterday. So a 34-core die is probably going to end up as an entirely different SKU. Also, the 13th Gen Raptor Lake-S mainstream lineup uses a mix of P-Cores & E-Cores whereas the 34-core die uses P-Cores entirely.