Ford Lightning
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yes so far i am a " current order holder " so the price increase doesn't apply to me they say
so far
and yea 85k is a ton of cash
plus 35k to 55k for solar system to fuel it
yes so far i am a " current order holder " so the price increase doesn't apply to me they say
so far
and yea 85k is a ton of cash
plus 35k to 55k for solar system to fuel it
But on the bright side, if you can do it you’re doing pretty well for yourself. That’s a plus
Now you just have to worry about taxes…
But on the bright side, if you can do it you’re doing pretty well for yourself. That’s a plus
Now you just have to worry about taxes…
well i paid off all my bills the start last year - just a bad feeling
i only use one credit card now that i get 2% cash back for everything work and personal and i pay it off in full 2 or 3 times a month
if i'm buying units for jobs it at 4k a pop and parts the cash back adds up
and i got about 200k inheritance from my uncle in May this year
and i need a bigger truck the nissan frontier is overloaded
and i already paid my estimated tax payments for this year
and the Lighting will pay my taxes for the next 7 years
Heh, the wife and I have that bad feeling too.
I’m glad you’re doing well though buddy. I hope it stays that way for you
Silent-Runner
Noli timere messorem
well, free 200k sure make things a bit "easier". Still wouldn't spend that much cash on a car, but that's just me. Hope you're having fun with it, Bill.
well a F150 Hybrid Lariat in the same build that gets about the same 22 MPG as my non Hybrid nissan frontier is about 68k but is a bigger truck that in need
and the Hybrid is only 3300 more than a v6 and gets 7 MPG more
so the Lighting is about 18k more than a ICE
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https://electrek.co/2022/08/16/ford-duke-energy-use-ford-f-150-lightning-power-grid/
isn't that going to eat your batterys ?
or there was a brown out at night so your car is dead in the moring so you can't to go to work
https://electrek.co/2022/08/16/ford-duke-energy-use-ford-f-150-lightning-power-grid/
isn't that going to eat your batterys ?
or there was a brown out at night so your car is dead in the moring so you can't to go to work
Wouldn't brown outs be more likely to happen during peak? I'm pretty sure once the truck figures out your average daily use they'll not let the battery drain below that point with some extra to spare or you could do that manually with an app. Playing electric rate arbitrage would be one of the top reasons if I wanted to get one especially since we're on one of those "free" at night plans.
As for the battery, hey if Ford is willing to warranty it based on mileage/8 years then it's on them. They probably will limit the vehicle to grid shenanigans to some very narrow 40%-60% of charge and the amperage allowed to something way smaller than what the batteries can do at peak discharge.
whats peak?
peak here now is 4pm to 7pm
but as more and more people plug in at night what will it be
and since i have a carport and not a garage i can cool
i will have charge after 11 pm to do it in the coolest part of the night
and i live in Phoenix i keep trucks longer than that, a lot longer
traded in my 86 k5 blazer 4x4 on my 2004 escalade i still have and don't plan to sell it
still runs great
https://www.pcmag.com/news/ev-batte...xperience,20 years before needing replacement.
i want 15+ years out of a 85k truck and would opt out
electric company isn't paying anything for the truck they don't get to use it
Last time I checked (which was a while ago) quite a bit of base load is wasted so we have some gap. As EV's ramp we'd have to adjust base load which should be more efficient and require less maintenance as base load plants don't generally spin up and down as much as peaking plants do. This will also slow or reduce the need for peaking plants by smoothing out electrical usage.
I thought the Lightning has liquid cooled batteries, doesn't that start running when the batteries get too hot? So you'll lose some energy circulating the liquid as you charge? I wish you did have a garage. If your Rheem heat pump water heater was in the garage with it, it could've helped cool the garage some while providing for hot water.
The article says it'll help lower the leasing cost of the EV, so it isn't for people owning one and so they sorta are paying for using the battery.
I know there's some Prius batteries that lasted over the 8yr warranty but in general I know battery lifetimes are pretty short. I think Ford said they'll be shifting to LFP batteries for their cars which have a longer life span but all this tech is still new so I really don't expect it to last much longer than the warranty. But we have to start somewhere.
I'm not sure i can even get it in the carport yet i may end up parking in the side yard gravel
thing is 78 inches in height and add 8 to 10 inches for a ladder rack if i build one at minimum clearances over the cab and bed cap
total clearance on my carport is 87 inches without cutting the wood beam some
i got to see how much it squats down when i put about 600 to 900 pounds of weight on it
thing is 78 inches in height and add 8 to 10 inches for a ladder rack if i build one at minimum clearances over the cab and bed cap
total clearance on my carport is 87 inches without cutting the wood beam some
i got to see how much it squats down when i put about 600 to 900 pounds of weight on it
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i looked at one at the dealer and drove it
was the cheap one but very nice
the one problem i see is the front trunk and security
with the truck off and keys out of range it will open with a button on the dash
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https://cleantechnica.com/2022/08/1...esla-ceo-during-f-150-lightning-presentation/
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https://insideevs.com/news/605240/cost-to-charge-ford-f150-lightning/
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i looked at one at the dealer and drove it
was the cheap one but very nice
the one problem i see is the front trunk and security
with the truck off and keys out of range it will open with a button on the dash
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https://cleantechnica.com/2022/08/1...esla-ceo-during-f-150-lightning-presentation/
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https://insideevs.com/news/605240/cost-to-charge-ford-f150-lightning/
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Electricity is $0.40/kWh in Hawaii?! I figured that power would be pricey there, but holy cow!
Geeze, it would be cheaper to charge at a supercharger than charging at home in Hawaii. No wonder rooftop solar is so freaking popular over there.
As for the security thing, I'm not familiar with trucks but getting inside the cab generally lets you do anything. I know glove compartments can be locked separately but the trunk is fair game with just a pull lever.
the engine components are on a lever for fire safty and they can be opened incase of frie
no ICE truck have trunks that i know of
as a work truck that they are marketing it as it should be secure
don't want to put 5k to 10k in tools in it if all it takes is breaking a window and pushing a button
i can find and cut the wire to the button as you can open it with the key fob
but it shuld require the key fob to be in about 10 feet of the truck to work or for that matter it should be programable to be anyway you want it
Like I said, I'm not familiar with trucks. On cars the trunk is easy game once you are inside. For all we know if the alarm is set off the button (if not the whole console) is disabled.
So how was the test drive? Did you get a good idea how high it was so it'll fit under your carport with the better wheels?
drive was fine a pickup is a pickup
it's big used to a nissan frontier
has a ton of torque and will fly
but won't know about the carport till i can drive one home and get my tools and truck bed drawer system and bed cap on it to see how much the weight lowers the truck
i had to put air lift springs on the frontier to get back to level
Sasquach
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drive was fine a pickup is a pickup
it's big used to a nissan frontier
has a ton of torque and will fly
but won't know about the carport till i can drive one home and get my tools and truck bed drawer system and bed cap on it to see how much the weight lowers the truck
i had to put air lift springs on the frontier to get back to level
could you not just borrow a standard f150 from someone/somewhere and test it?
i would assume a lightning is practically he same size and shape and an ICE F150 (heck any half tone truck is pretty much the same monstrous size)
don't think so
lightning extended range is already about 1500 pounds over a ICE F150 in the same setup
and it has a difrent suspension system
it's not going to settle down with weight the same
i'm going to have about 175 to 250 pounds in the front trunk and 700 to 1000 pounds on the bed
payload capacity of the lightning extended range is 1800 pounds
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