Thinking about a Ryzen 3700X….

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A high end gaming rig isn’t top priority for me, so with that said, I can save a few hundred by building around the 3700X instead of the 5800X.

Real world performance - You guys think there would be a noticeable difference between the two?

I’ll be replacing a 3570k, mainly photo editing (casual, not pro) and the odd game here and there - and I don’t mind lowering a couple of graphics options :bleh:

I’ll probably be using 1440p

Thanks in advance guys

Edit: Was looking at this.

https://www.microcenter.com/product...0-tuf-gaming-plus-wifi,-cpu-motherboard-combo
 
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Why not a 5600x instead? It's got far higher IPC and single core performance, and to games/apps that matters far more. For casual use/photoshop work and the like, its also extremely powerful, and as far as future proofing goes 6/12c will be all you'll need this ps5/xsx generation. Things like min fps and frame times will be faaaar higher than 3700x as well with a 5xxx cpu.
 
Lazy8s said:
A high end gaming rig isn’t top priority for me, so with that said, I can save a few hundred by building around the 3700X instead of the 5800X.

Real world performance - You guys think there would be a noticeable difference between the two?

I’ll be replacing a 3570k, mainly photo editing (casual, not pro) and the odd game here and there - and I don’t mind lowering a couple of graphics options :bleh:

I’ll probably be using 1440p

Thanks in advance guys

Edit: Was looking at this.

https://www.microcenter.com/product...0-tuf-gaming-plus-wifi,-cpu-motherboard-combo
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Lazy I would save up for the 5800x. There is a HUGE jump from 3700x to 5800x. You will get more longevity and noticeable performance. We are talking anywhere from 20-40% basically across the board.
 
clerick said:
Why not a 5600x instead? It's got far higher IPC and single core performance, and to games/apps that matters far more. For casual use/photoshop work and the like, its also extremely powerful, and as far as future proofing goes 6/12c will be all you'll need this ps5/xsx generation. Things like min fps and frame times will be faaaar higher than 3700x as well with a 5xxx cpu.
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logical said:
Lazy I would save up for the 5800x. There is a HUGE jump from 3700x to 5800x. You will get more longevity and noticeable performance. We are talking anywhere from 20-40% basically across the board.
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Oh 20-40% is a hella lot lol. I’m going to get the 5800x then. I’ll probably pick it up this week along with everything else, but the wife wants to wrap them up for my birthday :lol:

Appreciate it guys thanks :)
 
Get the 5600X, I went from a 3700X to a 5600X, then to an 11600K, primarily because single threaded game performance (IE League of Legends, Siege, etc) perform 100FPS higher easy. The 3700X is a dog on single threaded games, my 3700X could barely push past 130 FPS on League of Legends, and using a 270hz monitor, drove me insane.

I would really look into the 11600K overall though, it's cheaper than the 5600X, and often performs better in games. Sometimes it even beats the 5800X, albeit rare. But it's a great chip for the cost.
 
CurrentlyPissed said:
Get the 5600X, I went from a 3700X to a 5600X, then to an 11600K, primarily because single threaded game performance (IE League of Legends, Siege, etc) perform 100FPS higher easy. The 3700X is a dog on single threaded games, my 3700X could barely push past 130 FPS on League of Legends, and using a 270hz monitor, drove me insane.

I would really look into the 11600K overall though, it's cheaper than the 5600X, and often performs better in games. Sometimes it even beats the 5800X, albeit rare. But it's a great chip for the cost.
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My Microcenter is sold out ot the 11600k, but I want to give AMD a shot this go around, and the 5800x is only $90 more than the 5600x...

I budget cheap for PC stuff usually anyway, but I want it to last as long as possible, so I'll grab the 5800x this go around. Thanks for the info though CP :up:
 
Was going to say "good move" then I read the responses. :(
<looks down at my 3900x and kicks the box>

But nvm the CPU, will you have money left after getting a GPU?!?
 
Hold off. AMD will likely implement price drops when Intel releases AlderLake in October. The Ryzen product line is pretty overpriced IMO so getting more value out of it, or bring able to jump up to a 5900X, would give you more longevity out of the system.

Despite wanting to go AMD, you should definitely consider Intel. They are offering much better value right now. The 10700F, 10900F, and 11700 are all solid chips. I heard that AMD just finally fixed the USB issues plaguing a lot of users.. it's an issue that's been around for a long time..
 
Yeah the age old decision to buy now when you want it, or hold off for when a new series releases and previous gen parts get discounted. Personally I think its best to just buy what you want now rather than waiting, unless the new stuff is coming out very soon like within a month's time. Waiting can turn into a endless cycle with something better always coming out within 3-6 months so when is it the right time?

Lazy8s said in his first sentence high end gaming isn't the priority and hinted at wanting to save a little money where he could. Personally I think the 3700X/ASUS X570 combo he linked would be a nice upgrade for him and save a good chunk of the cost vs. going with a higher end 5800X. At $399 that's $100 less than what I paid for the same CPU/motherboard hardware a little over a year ago. The 5800X is definitely going to be a significant performance boost but if budget is important then at an additional $150 is it really necessary? I understand longevity adding value but that extra performance may not be needed until several years down the line. I don't know, its a decision only Lazy8s can make for himself.
 
October is less than two months away, and with photo editing being one of the tasks for the rig, the higher core count and IPC would be worthwhile.
 
That's some good food for thought guys. Just to clarify, the money is a personal ceiling I set for myself, but it's flexible if the product/price warrants it.

I chose AMD because I thought their line was ahead bang for the $$ this go around, but I'm open to Intel for the right price. And it's a good possibility :lol:

Nunz, you mentioned the 10700f and the 11700. They are (at the moment) $249 for the 10700k and $299 for the 11700k, and the 10900 is $329.
https://www.microcenter.com/category/4294966995,4294820689/intel-processors

That is absolutely within my budget. See, I thought I knew what I wanted. :p but any one of these would be a substantial upgrade for me. October is close, but I know from experience that last gen chips get scarce pretty fast here if stock is plentiful on the new release.

I might start out with something like this...and again - Thank you for the advice :heart:

11700k
Asus Z590 Prime
32Gb DDR4 CL16 - Crucial Ballistix


https://www.microcenter.com/product...ga-1200-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included

https://www.microcenter.com/product/633211/asus-z590-p-prime-intel-lga-1200-atx-motherboard

https://www.microcenter.com/product...nnel-desktop-memory-kit-bl2k16g32c16u4b-black
 
Do you plan on overclocking? If not, you could consider the non-K to save even more money .. if that is the goal. Otherwise, I'd get the K and enjoy. It'll boost higher at stock. AMD is definitely not the bang/buck purchase anymore, at least not the 5000 series.

The Prime is a fairly well built mobo I believe, so should be alright.

Microcenter has some poor memory selection. Intel favors bandwidth (frequency) over latency, so I'd look for DDR4-4000C17 or somewhere around there. I wouldn't go lower than 3600Mhz. There's a good amount of fairly priced memory out there, but microcenters selection is very limited.
 
Nunz said:
Do you plan on overclocking? If not, you could consider the non-K to save even more money .. if that is the goal. Otherwise, I'd get the K and enjoy. It'll boost higher at stock. AMD is definitely not the bang/buck purchase anymore, at least not the 5000 series.

The Prime is a fairly well built mobo I believe, so should be alright.

Microcenter has some poor memory selection. Intel favors bandwidth (frequency) over latency, so I'd look for DDR4-4000C17 or somewhere around there. I wouldn't go lower than 3600Mhz. There's a good amount of fairly priced memory out there, but microcenters selection is very limited.
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Ok I'll go for the 4000C17 memory then. No plans for overclocking really, but the higher boost sounds nice.

This is great - I think I'll grab everything tomorrow. Thanks Nunz :)
 
Just be aware if you go for the 11700 12th gen CPU you won't be able to run 4000mhz memory at 1:1 ratio. You will most likely have to run it around 3600 to 3733.

In other words, don't just select XMP at 4000mhz because it will default to 1:2 ratio and incur a large performance hit. You will have to manually drop speeds and timings accordingly.

If you don't want to manually tweak everything I would suggest just getting a 3600 or 3733 kit from the start so you can just enable XMP and be done with it.

Also, 12th gen RKL responds very well to lower timings.
 
demo said:
Just be aware if you go for the 11700 12th gen CPU you won't be able to run 4000mhz memory at 1:1 ratio. You will most likely have to run it around 3600 to 3733.

In other words, don't just select XMP at 4000mhz because it will default to 1:2 ratio and incur a large performance hit. You will have to manually drop speeds and timings accordingly.

If you don't want to manually tweak everything I would suggest just getting a 3600 or 3733 kit from the start so you can just enable XMP and be done with it.

Also, 12th gen RKL responds very well to lower timings.
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Yeah that was something I should have mentioned..

I'd say Demo has the right idea, probably better off with a 3600CL16 kit. If you end up with a 10850 or 10900, then get the 4000 kit.
 
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