The Official Navi21 (RX 6000) rumor thread.

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his ending point for why he thinks it's fake, missing the (up to) beside the clocks is incorrect as well.

from the 5700xt press deck
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looks fake because we know they showing a two fan cooling card for months

but 30% for 6900 and more fore a 6950 is ok


but i do think AMD's top card will be 999
the 6950 most likely
 
So much FUD going around. I don't think anyone has a grip on what's to come tbh.

Going to be an interesting September though, and the following months in the Christmas season just might have us see a small price war.

This pandemic is going to keep people at home till at least next Spring. If these card companies play their cards right, i.e. release them during the second round of stimulus, they are going to rake it in. Deservedly so.

I'm definitely upgrading my 5700XT. It's been a great card, but I just need that little bit more for VR.
 
looks fake because we know they showing a two fan cooling card for months

but 30% for 6900 and more fore a 6950 is ok


but i do think AMD's top card will be 999
the 6950 most likely

Yea the cooler in the early reveal definitely was totally different then the older style they are showing here, but who knows, maybe they changed their mind to go water.
 
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If big Navi turns out to be faster than the 2080TI then AMD could use an aggresive pricing strategy to gain market share and at the same time throw Nvidia's pricing strategy into chaos. Even if Big Navi is only 10% faster than the 2800TI but priced at say $£800 it would deal a serious blow to the top end Turing cards which would become virtually redundant over night.

NVidia would then have to respond by pricing their 3080 cards in the same ball park as Big Navi or risk losing market share. Win win situation for us guys with a return to a pricing war. Unfortunately AMD could also decide to price Big Navi close to 2080TI and keep the profit margin high on what will be small production cards because of their price.

AMD has said that it wants to disrupt the 4K graphics market just like it did with Ryzen in the CPU market. The big caveat, of course, is Big Navi needs to deliver on performance and doesn't end up like Fury and Vega. If it can deliver the performance and AMD price it right we could all benefit. Time will tell.
 
If big Navi turns out to be faster than the 2080TI then AMD could use an aggresive pricing strategy to gain market share and at the same time throw Nvidia's pricing strategy into chaos. Even if Big Navi is only 10% faster than the 2800TI but priced at say $£800 it would deal a serious blow to the top end Turing cards which would become virtually redundant over night.

NVidia would then have to respond by pricing their 3080 cards in the same ball park as Big Navi or risk losing market share. Win win situation for us guys with a return to a pricing war. Unfortunately AMD could also decide to price Big Navi close to 2080TI and keep the profit margin high on what will be small production cards because of their price.

AMD has said that it wants to disrupt the 4K graphics market just like it did with Ryzen in the CPU market. The big caveat, of course, is Big Navi needs to deliver on performance and doesn't end up like Fury and Vega. If it can deliver the performance and AMD price it right we could all benefit. Time will tell.

AMD's top card will most likely be 899 to 999

NVidia always prices their cards higher .
i expect the 3080 to be a good bit slower than the top Big Navi and same price or up to 100 bucks more
the 3090 will be a little faster and a lot more

of course AMD can push the 6950 XT all the way to 350 watts now to match the 3090 and maybe be closer
 
Who do you guys think is going to go first, Nvidia or AMD?

I have a gut feeling Nvidia is going to go first, followed by AMD. Which could be a baller move by Lisa.
 
Who do you guys think is going to go first, Nvidia or AMD?

I have a gut feeling Nvidia is going to go first, followed by AMD. Which could be a baller move by Lisa.

Personally I was thinking the other way around. Who knows, lots of FUD out there right now.
 
Who do you guys think is going to go first, Nvidia or AMD?

I have a gut feeling Nvidia is going to go first, followed by AMD. Which could be a baller move by Lisa.


Probably. I'm kinda more worried about AMD's next GPU more than Zen 3. Because I know Zen 3 is already looking too good after looked what they had done to Zen 2.
 
Probably. I'm kinda more worried about AMD's next GPU more than Zen 3. Because I know Zen 3 is already looking too good after looked what they had done to Zen 2.

TBH they need to get the drivers right and out day one otherwise they should wait until they are in a decent state. Look at the last three releases the drivers have been sh*t on release and took some time to get right and this hurt them badly.

If they try ro release a new high end card costing north of $£800 and the drivers are rubbish just don't bother. The brand damage will be massive and Nvidia will pi*s themselves laughing at another own goal from AMD. Price can be nice but if the card doesn't work as it should due to poor drivers wait until it does or just don't bother releasing it at all.
 
I've had the 5700XT since day 1 release and I haven't had any issues, with the exception of the Chrome bug which was fixed.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
TBH they need to get the drivers right and out day one otherwise they should wait until they are in a decent state. Look at the last three releases the drivers have been sh*t on release and took some time to get right and this hurt them badly.

If they try ro release a new high end card costing north of $£800 and the drivers are rubbish just don't bother. The brand damage will be massive and Nvidia will pi*s themselves laughing at another own goal from AMD. Price can be nice but if the card doesn't work as it should due to poor drivers wait until it does or just don't bother releasing it at all.
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yea sure
Nvidia never has driver problems with new cards :lol: :lol: :lol:


i had no real problems with Fury X CFX day 1 or month 1 and 2

now i had lots the whole first 6 months with my GTX 680 SLI

and the 1200 buck RTX 2080 Ti had tons of bugs both hardware and driver the first few months
where is the " brand damage " :lol:


........
go ahead and buy Nvidia and pay out the ass
but you will still see driver problems .

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or maybe a new game console

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must have Intel inside
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I've had the 2080Ti since Oct 2018 and I haven't had any issues.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Clearly user error on Bill's part. :p
you don't remember the hardware bug of of tons of RTX cards playing space invaders

and there were a few driver bugs or what are they fixing all the time :p

Changes and Fixed Issues in Version 446.14
The following sections list the important changes and the most common issues resolved in this
version. This list is only a subset of the total number of changes made in this driver version. The
NVIDIA bug number is provided for reference.
Fixed Issues in this Release
 [Notebook]: Notebooks with Maxwell generation GPUs may experience higher GPU utilization
during game play leading to reduced battery life and higher temperatures. [2929921/
200608270]
 [SLI]: Major frame time spikes occur in multiple games.[2903264]
 [HDR]: Some games may appear very bright when HDR is enabled. [2909218]
 [Overwatch]: Improved game stability. [2938981]
 [Monster Hunter World Iceborne]: Artifacts appear in the game. [2903858]
 [Resident Evil 3 Remake][DirectX 12]: Some objects in the game may flicker. [2938095]
 [F1 2019]: The game may randomly crash to the desktop. [200608572]
 Fixed an issue where the shader cache was sometimes incorrectly purged upon launching an
application. [2937218]
 Fixed driver installation issue on Colorful GeForce GTX 1650. [2919568]
 Corsair iCUE program triggers Geforce Overlay. [200614189]

it's the same crap as AMD it hits some but not all
 
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