EVGA will no longer make video cards

They may be terrible towards their AIBs, but they are very good with their employees, even those working outside USA (North America)
 
Trunks0 said:
Yea nVidia **** behaviour there caused me to bow out on the 3000 series entirely.

And now with the 4000 series I'm pondering bowing out again. This time they are pushing things to far with the people who make the hardware to the point that a top tier brand is forced to bow out... I'm absolutely sick of them being a POS and the only way I can really vote against that properly as a consumer is not buying their products and not investing in nVidia.

****. Can they not be a POS for a god damn minute?!?!
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Indeed! One can vote with their wallet! I vote based on flexibility, features and tools. Also, express the importance of sweet spot pricing when it may get lost or ignored with discussions of flag ship or very high end sku's.


Personally try to think of Nvidia more-so about their engineers and appreciate the work they do to innovate.
 
That HW unboxed apology rings a bit hollow when you consider that they secretly went after LTT after issuing it.
 
Thankfully, there was push back by many but I'm not familiar with this secret attack on LTT -- can you expand on this?
 
The Biggest Tech Divorce - WAN Show September 16, 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QADCRdzqOH0

At the 24 minute - 30 second mark of the video. That's not a lot of information to say Nvidia will not work with Linus, considering they still receive products.

What Nvidia did to Hardware UnBoxed crossed the line and I am not a huge fan of Steve and his site. To kinda ignore at times strengths of a product based on a reviewer's subjective tastes isn't very objective as well. Understood Nvidia's point but they did go too far, imho.
 
No, the sneaky stuff is at 28 minutes, nvidia went after ltt's advertising revenue.

Allegedly.

That's actually worse than what they did to hw unboxed.
 
Okay, but that is more hearsay -- the key, with Hardware Unboxed there was definitive proof. If accurate that would be very vindictive!
 
Mangler said:
No, the sneaky stuff is at 28 minutes, nvidia went after ltt's advertising revenue.

Allegedly.

That's actually worse than what they did to hw unboxed.
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saw that the other day that is nuts

they jacket really is a scumbag millionaire :bleh:


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thank you - U.S. Federal Trade Commission :evil:
 
There are some rumors that the statement put out by the CEO about EVGA being "debt free" are not entirely true. Evidence of them putting on insane sales and trying to clear all inventory ASAP indicates they may have debt or owe creditors. Remember when they put that sale on the EVGA 1600watt P2? Arguably one of the best PSUs on the market and they were selling it for half-off, or more than half-off..

At the end of the day, it just doesn't make sense to say that EVGA is doing this on principal but then lay-off a significant number of it's employees and throw away a partnership that generates roughly 75% of the company revenue. Andrew Han is doing a disservice to his employees more than anyone else..
 
at this point it is a done deal NV will never sell to them again .


at this point they go with AMD or go like BFG they tried the PSU only thing also

they lasted about a month :bleh:


and sorry Intel doesn't really have a working video card product yet
 
acroig said:
I think evga needs new management.
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Yeah, I'm not going to blame EVGA here. Realistically, there is only so much you can do as a business when dealing with another business. EVGA has a responsibility to make money for themselves and their employees. If their supplier is undercutting them and they are taking losses then you can't really blame that on EVGA's management team. There are legitimate business problems there that EVGA can't ignore.

IMO, it was a bad business setup in the first place. Apparently, contractually, EVGA didn't have a price point to work with until the day that Nvidia's CEO told people about their cards. Also, Nvidia got to set the price points for EVGA cards for the entire time that EVGA sold the cards. EVGA was then undercut by Nvidia numerous times costing EVGA money. EVGA perceived it as an unfair agreement and, personally, can't blame EVGA for terminating that agreement. I really don't know that new management would view that deal any differently either. That is a HARD environment to make money in. Especially if they can't set the prices on their own cards.

Granted, EVGA did agree to the terms originally years and years ago and stuck with them. But as we all know, things change with time and companies do too. I think that EVGA had some good leverage being the top seller of Nvidia cards in North America and the UK. Maybe they tried to flex that during this contract negotiation to get more reasonable terms. At this point, who knows. And even if they did know, who knows if they'd tell the truth.

All we know are the end results and we only know them from one side of the equation.

I hoped that this is just a ploy to get Nvidia to renegotiate terms with EVGA but from reporting that I have read and watched the management team at EVGA may have tried to renegotiate and Nvidia decided not to agree to their terms. I don't know what Nvidia's thinking was, but I can imagine that they didn't want to change terms with EVGA and have the other AIB's want the same treatment. Which is their right.

These kinds of things happen every day though. And believe it or not, this seems like a pretty straight forward and easy split. They can be SOOOOO much worse.

tl:dr.... I'm not so sure that I really could blame EVGA's management if they are taking losses... It would be bad business to continue that practice.
 
Nvidia was always trying to go Apple but needed to leverage other brands to sell for so long they havent been able to fully do it yet but they left a lot of those brands in the dirt along the way. Its why they sell their own branded cards before anybody elses.

And yea AMD would want the same thing its just more profits into your pocket.
 
pax said:
Nvidia was always trying to go Apple but needed to leverage other brands to sell for so long they havent been able to fully do it yet but they left a lot of those brands in the dirt along the way. Its why they sell their own branded cards before anybody elses.

And yea AMD would want the same thing its just more profits into your pocket.
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never like the FE's or AMD's reference cards


AMD would love for NV to go FE only
 
KINGPIN left the company. Not sure if it was part of the layoffs, or if he still wants to be involved with GPUs.

Sucks, because the DARK KINGPIN is an awesome board. Won't see that anymore.

EVGA will be dead by end of 2023.
 
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