EVGA will no longer make video cards
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acroig
Just another Troll
Agreed, can't say I understand EVGAs reasoning here.
it's the card price drops that NV did without warning is what i get
two or three in a short time
but did they drop the price of the GPU's to EVGA or anyone ?
i bet not
did they tell EVGA when they ordered hay we are going to have to drop card prices soon
i bet not
acroig
Just another Troll
Agreed.
Yeah, Nvidia planned to lose 44% revenue sequentially, create excessive Ampere inventories just to mislead Evga.
yes NV can do no wrong
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they did created excessive Ampere inventories .
and i think
then they offloaded 95% them to the aftermarket manufacturers before any talk of price drops
then dropped the prices 2 or 3 times in about a month and left others holding the bag of cat Sh*t
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as for Nvidia planning why not ?
we all knew this was coming for months
bitcoin has been dropping since april and proof of stake has been planed for two 2 years
all they had to do is watch the ethereum mining profitability chart to know as soon as it dropped low and a lot of miners started off loading cards ( that has been going on for months now) that they were going to install proof of stake and the 3000 prices would be toast
and like you said this is the second time NV supposedly got caught with their pants down
Imho,
Ideally would liked to see EVGA and Nvidia rethink because the Gpu industry is better with Evga in it. The 22 + years working with each other must mean something from both parties. EVGA was very important to Nvidia GPU sales in North America and their service is going to be tough to replace.
Ideally would liked to see EVGA and Nvidia rethink because the Gpu industry is better with Evga in it. The 22 + years working with each other must mean something from both parties. EVGA was very important to Nvidia GPU sales in North America and their service is going to be tough to replace.
NIGELG
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Only money means anything to Nvidia. All other relationships are disposable to Nvidia.
Maybe EVGA should try Intel or AMD because I don't see what else they could do. If AMD graphics become competitive then EVGA can try to be like Sapphire or XFX.
Riptide
Active member
It isn't dead and isn't likely to die. However it may be quite some time (years possibly) before whiny entitled brats get to complain about shortages brought on in part or whole by satan, aka miners.
I've used several of their PSUs and the only RMA ever was due to fan noise. Not impressed with the quality of their fans tbh.
I cannot stand them too and I'll never buy another Nvidia card unless Jensen himself puts a gun to my head.
Yah that would suck but hopefully they at least get a severance. Most of the people they would lay off have some marketable skills so getting work elsewhere shouldn't be as much of a challenge I hope.
Agree.
not going to happen
the jacket is a vindictive little __________ .
the way is shut and the dead keep it
The money and control doesn't bother me too much based on it is their resources risked to grow the company. What did bother me from a control aspect was when they were not going to work with Hardware UnBoxed based on their review style and conclusions. I didn't like Hardware UnBoxed style and conclusions as well but it was their findings and subjective tastes. Thankfully, there was an apology from Nvidia after some reflection and rethinking.
andino
Jackass Extraordinaire
Sometimes it's difficult for two companies to work together. It's even harder when one company undercuts the other on a regular basis. It's damn near impossible when one company sets the price for the other.
I don't blame EVGA for wanting out of their deal. It's hard to set pricing for an item when the first you get to hear about it is the week that the cards should come out.
I don't think most people realize the time and money spent in productions and design that these companies put into their products. All without knowing the final costs that they are going to be charged to produce a chipmakers product.
Try to imagine that in ANY other high-tech industry. Because, frankly, it doesn't happen that often. ASUS knows what Intel is going to charge for their motherboard chipsets prior to them designing the motherboards. They also know with the AMD chipsets. They then design their product around that price point and adjust accordingly.
Nvidia has screwed themselves here a bit. IMO, if I were MSI, ASUS, PNY, etc... I'd look at doing the exact same thing that EVGA has done. I'd tell Nvidia that they need to spell out the price per chip early on in R&D and give them the ability to set their own pricing or they'd walk too.
Let's see how much stock Nvidia could fill on their own.
Especially with their stock prices tanking.... IMO, that'll go lower this next week too. EVGA sold a lot of chips for Nvidia and I'm not too sure if ASUS and the rest knew that EVGA wouldn't be selling the new cards. So now they'll more than likely will have to increase production to meet demand. And that takes a good bit of time to do.
F a bunch of Nvidia.
I don't blame EVGA for wanting out of their deal. It's hard to set pricing for an item when the first you get to hear about it is the week that the cards should come out.
I don't think most people realize the time and money spent in productions and design that these companies put into their products. All without knowing the final costs that they are going to be charged to produce a chipmakers product.
Try to imagine that in ANY other high-tech industry. Because, frankly, it doesn't happen that often. ASUS knows what Intel is going to charge for their motherboard chipsets prior to them designing the motherboards. They also know with the AMD chipsets. They then design their product around that price point and adjust accordingly.
Nvidia has screwed themselves here a bit. IMO, if I were MSI, ASUS, PNY, etc... I'd look at doing the exact same thing that EVGA has done. I'd tell Nvidia that they need to spell out the price per chip early on in R&D and give them the ability to set their own pricing or they'd walk too.
Let's see how much stock Nvidia could fill on their own.
Especially with their stock prices tanking.... IMO, that'll go lower this next week too. EVGA sold a lot of chips for Nvidia and I'm not too sure if ASUS and the rest knew that EVGA wouldn't be selling the new cards. So now they'll more than likely will have to increase production to meet demand. And that takes a good bit of time to do.
F a bunch of Nvidia.
NIGELG
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If you say so about mining but you can call miner haters whiny brats but mining/crypto has ruined lives and economies, has no regulation, is destructive to the environment, has caused gaming card prices to go through the roof and just plain sucks.
Your little hobby has run it's course.
Let's stick to discussing NV, EVGA, and the ramifications/causations of this divorce. Mining in relation to NV/EVGA is great, but let's not get into the rabbit hole of mining=good/mining=bad, or calling people who dislike mining "whiny entitled brats."
It's a really beaten horse that is better left dead.
It's a really beaten horse that is better left dead.
NIGELG
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Cool. But can Nvidia ever stop being scummy?
Are they scared of something? Why would such a business relationship die just like that? Is it because Nvidia wants all the money and is therefore cutting out their AIB's? AIB'S should be worried.
Why is EVGA still kissing up to Nvidia like a spurned lover hoping for a rekindle? Why is EVGA not trying to pivot their business with other Video card companies?
Yea nVidia **** behaviour there caused me to bow out on the 3000 series entirely.
And now with the 4000 series I'm pondering bowing out again. This time they are pushing things to far with the people who make the hardware to the point that a top tier brand is forced to bow out... I'm absolutely sick of them being a POS and the only way I can really vote against that properly as a consumer is not buying their products and not investing in nVidia.
****. Can they not be a POS for a god damn minute?!?!
i think Nvidia would be more than happy with the only Nvidia cards on the market being FE's
NV is doing what's best for their shareholders/investors. I'm not sure it's *scummy*
I think NV is scared, yeah. When the ARM deal fell through, I think NV was OK with that as they have market dominance with CUDA, superior hardware in the consumer market, tons of brand recognition, and they will have a node advantage for the first time in a long time against AMD.
Then the US said "no more GPUs above XX level to China!", and NV is now scrambling to figure out how it will deal with the reduced sales, in addition to the fact that the market is slowing heavily. We seen a massive bubble form over the past ~3 years, and it's popping. I think NV realized this a bit late.. which is fine, no company is perfect. They delayed release of the 4000 series (which allows them to accumulate healthy stock) in order to fire-sale the overproduced 3000 series cards.
As much **** as people want to give NV, the fact they continued ramping up production to try and get cards on the shelves for people.. not a bad thing.
If an AIB is mad about this, well.. I don't know what to say. EVGA should have done a better job with the 3000 series if they want me to feel bad. They released subpar hardware this generation. Low quality VRMs, cards spontaneously combusting, red lights of death (happened to my OG 3080FTW3..).. it has not been a good ~2 years for EVGA.
Maybe working with AMD isn't much, or any, better.
EVGA is kissing their ass regardless because if they ever want to make a nVidia GPU again, this is the only thing they can do. nVidia is a famously vindictive company. And if EVGA made AMD or Intel hardware, while not making nVidia hardware... nVidia would absolutely never work with them ever again.
How nVidia operates is both abnormal and well documented to be one of the worst in the computer hardware industry.
How nVidia operates is both abnormal and well documented to be one of the worst in the computer hardware industry.