Buying a new system suggestions for parts needed..

Since 5900x supports gen4 nvme I'd definitely be getting a gen4 SSD. Aside from being faster, there are additional technologies for gaming coming out in the form of RTX IO, Windows Direct Storage, and console equivalents.

My 2 cents
 
Don't think the end-user experience will be much different going from gen 3 to 4, this based on LTT blind test of SSHD / SSD / NVMe.

When NVMe 2.0 drops however I think we *might* percieve a difference.
 
demo said:
Since 5900x supports gen4 nvme I'd definitely be getting a gen4 SSD. Aside from being faster, there are additional technologies for gaming coming out in the form of RTX IO, Windows Direct Storage, and console equivalents.

My 2 cents
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Prices will make more sense in another year or two, and then he can grab one. Doesn't make sense, imo, to blow cash on a PCIE4.0 SSD right now, unless you are going for just a 1TB. I can say that 1TB was simply not enough storage, not with the size of games lately. I upgraded to the 2TB because of it
 
If no Wi-Fi is needed, another alternative to consider on the mobo is the MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK. Abit of a critical darling and it's pricing has become more attractive now if you want to spend less.
 
WiFi is not needed. Good suggestions everyone. I need to compare the motherboard nunz recommended vs the aorus ultra soon.
 
Falck said:
Don't think the end-user experience will be much different going from gen 3 to 4, this based on LTT blind test of SSHD / SSD / NVMe.

When NVMe 2.0 drops however I think we *might* percieve a difference.
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It's the technologies that require gen4+ more so than end user experience related to speeds.

RTX IO and Windows direct access for games require gen4 or better, to bring PC up to par with consoles with features like quick resume and the ability to stream larger worlds and assets on the fly. Windows update for this is not far away and gen4+ is a requirement.
 
I wonder if the requirements have changed?

MS states that you need a gen3 drive, Nvidia claims that you need a gen4 drive, someone has to be incorrect.
 
I will pick up a Sabrent Rocket if gen 4 is required. I have been wanting that drive for a while now.
Also I would assume Nvidia knows more than MS about RTX IO.
 
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I wonder if the requirements have changed?

MS states that you need a gen3 drive, Nvidia claims that you need a gen4 drive, someone has to be incorrect.
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They are slightly different technologies:

Microsoft DirectStorage is notably different to the concept put forward by Nvidia with its RTX I/O API, in that it copies the compressed data across to system memory before copying to the GPU VRAM. Once in the graphics card VRAM, the GPU can then decompress the data much quicker than the CPU can. Nvidia's solution works in largely the same way, although bypasses the system memory completely, and copies the data straight from the drive to the graphics card.
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RTX IO seems like the beefier implementation.

It has been noted that gen4 will provide a better experience for MS Direct Access too, but I assume the install base is too small right now so they dropped requirement to gen3 to get this tech off the ground.


All I know is if I was building a rig in mid/late 2021 and my platform supported it, I'd definitely be getting gen4, but it's nothing to stress about yet.
 
He would need to check US pricing. I'll probably be gone for a while, so good luck with your new setup logical :lol:

Oh, that Q model from Sabrent isn't very good apparently, there's a reason it's priced so low. I believe the Sabrent model you want to buy is the "Rocket PLUS"
 
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That Sabrent rocket is not much over gen3 speeds. You want the Sabrent Rocket Plus if you're going gen4 imho.

7000 MB/s (read) 5300 MB/s (write) 650k IOPS

But sure, for $10 more it's decent.


edit/ damn you nunz
 
Doesn't bother me, we need more excitement around here.

Speaking of excitement, just grab a 980 pro. Living on the edge without knowing when your SSD may explode is quite the thrill. And it's super fast.

7000MB/s (read), 5100MB/s (write), 1 million IOPS (explosion factor)
 
I was very clear that I was talking about comparable speeds. But yeah whatever. Buy whatever you can afford.

Nunz recommended P5 and it was a response to that exact drive that you can get a Sabrent comparable drive which is gen 4.
 
:up: yes I missed that context, KAC. The only issue, is the "Q" series being QLC which makes it, in my opinion, a worse drive than the Crucial P5. P5 is TLC.

I firmly believe quality PCIE3.0 drives will handle RTX IO with no issues, and if it does become an issue, PCIE4.0 drives will be much cheaper by then. We're about to start the push for PCIE5.0 drives with Intel introducing it by the end of this year.
 
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