Waiting on amd artic islands gpu
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all I can find is fud but
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/38771-samsung-will-not-make-pascal
like Globalfoundries Samsung plays with AMD to much
it may mean nv is on 16nm and amd new chip is on 14nm
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this and amd's priority access to hbm2 should make next year fun
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I still have all most all my old cards back to aiw 9700 pro, a few I have given away
only card I ever sold was my 5990
LordHawkwind
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I think you're barking up the wrong tree with that theory. Greenland is coming on new node with min 8gb HBM2 so how much do you think it'll cost? I'm guessing way north of $800 because a Fury X cost $649!!! Only the very rich/stupid will be buying and as usual they will be in short supply.
The Fury line up has been in short supply from day one and IMHO, and I own one, I won't be getting rid of mine to buy a new Greenland card. My Fury Pro handles all games at 1440p exceptionally and it will be another 12-18 months before any games come out that will make my card struggle. What I'm hoping for is the release of Greenland will improve the drivers for HBM whether it's version 1 like mine or version 2. My card's looking good for a few years yet!!
Treeckcold57
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I doubt that....you'll be waiting to see Greenland for very long time. That's why I had to upgrade from 7950 to 390X to get my games more playable so I can enjoy more, so I don't have to wait.
Ontopic:
LordHawking: Today a thought pop-up in my head to return the gtx 970 and wait for an AMD HBM2.0 card.I waited 4 years to level up from my 6950 and i think for my 1080p requirements and playing mostly indies my 970 is ok.I am still open for some oportunities nevertheless.
A bit offtopic:
Impressions on my Eizo Foris F2434 monitor i just bought today:
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?p=1337805486#post1337805486
LordHawking: Today a thought pop-up in my head to return the gtx 970 and wait for an AMD HBM2.0 card.I waited 4 years to level up from my 6950 and i think for my 1080p requirements and playing mostly indies my 970 is ok.I am still open for some oportunities nevertheless.
A bit offtopic:
Impressions on my Eizo Foris F2434 monitor i just bought today:
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?p=1337805486#post1337805486
A pair of those suckers, if each one has 8GB to itself will last a heck of a long time for sure, as it is a tremendous amount of rendering power between 4 chips no matter how you look at it ( pixel pushing, geometry, texturing, pixel shading, memory bandwidth ), even with the software scaling issues though windows 10 improves things a bit in multi GPU with DX12.
The thing that makes the decision quite easy is that I need 2 PCI-e slots for a Sound card and a dedicated raid card, so that limits it to 2 slots for GPU's, so the options are:
1: A Pair of fury X2's if they have enough memory onboard each GPU or,
2: A pair of Greenland based cards, which will have enough memory and I assume that with the node shrink to 14nm and the power use getting cut in half compared to the 28nm process, just 1 Greenland will match a pair of Fiji's working together when it comes to gaming.
Lower power use is irrelevant since I already own a pair of 1200 watt power supplies and that's a lot of power for anything, and cooling or noise is also a moot point since i water cool and need to buy the water blocks for either option.....The rest I already own ( radiators, fittings, pumps, tanks, etc...)
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Nope.... I'd rather not lose my mental sanity given how a lot of relationships are these days......
I keep hearing a lot of horror stories from family members, friends and co-workers alike, never mind what we routinely read in the news about divorces, breakups and the like....Don't need that at all.
LordHawkwind
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Nope.... I'd rather not lose my mental sanity given how a lot of relationships are these days......
I keep hearing a lot of horror stories from family members, friends and co-workers alike, never mind what we routinely read in the news about divorces, breakups and the like....Don't need that at all.
Obviously off-topic but I would have to say it depends. Just celebrated 30 years with the wife and have two wonderful (most of the time) kids but we've had our ups and downs. Other than my family I have two other "passions"; Manchester United who I've followed for 42 years and Golf. My wife realises this and never interferes with either.
Actually she's just taken up archery and realised she's very good and TBH said to me last week she now "gets" why I'm so passionate about United and golf. She now goes to archery more than I play golf and watch United
You've just got to take the risk Shadow because you'll never know if you don't try.
Obviously off-topic but I would have to say it depends. Just celebrated 30 years with the wife and have two wonderful (most of the time) kids but we've had our ups and downs. Other than my family I have two other "passions"; Manchester United who I've followed for 42 years and Golf. My wife realises this and never interferes with either.
Actually she's just taken up archery and realised she's very good and TBH said to me last week she now "gets" why I'm so passionate about United and golf. She now goes to archery more than I play golf and watch United
You've just got to take the risk Shadow because you'll never know if you don't try.
I'm extremely happy for you that it's working on your end and you should consider yourself a lucky man, as well as i still believe in long term commitment and understanding and compromises from both, as my own parents were married for 40+ years and only death stopped that from being even longer still......
He was there for her even when she had full blown Alzheimer's and didn't know who he was and she couldn't do anything on her own (even the basic stuff) which lasted 8 years in that hell, and he was fighting lung cancer at the same time ( towards the end of her suffering), and taking some seriously strong chemo not because it would save him ( it was too agressive and inoperable), but he would be there for another year for her.....Maybe.
He managed to last long enough to be there for her until she passed away, and then stopped the chemo and 6 months later it was his turn......It's been nearly 15 years since then and i'll never forget it.......It's the very definition of 4 words:
Guts.
Love.
Determination.
Unfairness.
But these cases are the exception, not the rule and having my own challenges as I've been thru (and still not out of the woods yet, but doing a lot better), medical issues that would scare the living **** out of anyone, as it can kill nearly instantly with no warning, and medical options are extremely limited, having serious side effects and no assurances it won't come back (been on this adventure for the last 8 years), doctors said i'm supposed to be dead by now, but i'm still here and it's been my personal war.
I drew strength from their own ordeal, to help me deal with this......Anyhow, given that I've confided in a few friends which some are women, and the look on their faces says it all even if their don't say the words (i'm a dead man), any serious relationship would mean them accepting said risk ( which most won't) and obviously making long term plans is out of the question, until this is sorted out one way or the other:
Either it kills me, or I kill it......It doesn't end any other way and so far and for reasons doctors can't explain, it seems i'm gradually doing just that, but it's a slow process (8 years and counting), meanwhile I still manage to keep my **** together and still work ( bills have to be paid after all)......
What they're learning with my case, as very little is known about it in the big scheme of things, could allow them to develop better treatments and maybe even a cure, but they're constantly saying over all this time that I am playing with fire by not going for the available options, even if they're far from perfect, and my neurologist told me she could never make that decision I did 8 years ago and stick to it like I have.
So anyhow, serious relationships is a no go until I see where the medical situation ends up......2016 could be the year I kill this thing once and for all.....
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What a coincidence .... Don't wait for the doctors .. you can "kill" it yourself...I fight something medical myself ... Only one doctor discover it after 12 years..
This medical condition rare around my relatives gave the oportunity to go ... off-road ... I read books for self development and learning my body to auto-heal..Now i understand why from all people here only with you i really tend to joke and somehow you pick the frequency just fine...It make sense now...The law of magnetism has been confirmed powerfully...
Path to self-realization is the only way if you want to heal ...
Just don't expect the doctors to do all the thing ... As you said they were consider you dead long ago..The body can't be reproduced in a human factory...They can't produce 1:1 hands or organs so there is more to this..
Get happy ...
This medical condition rare around my relatives gave the oportunity to go ... off-road ... I read books for self development and learning my body to auto-heal..Now i understand why from all people here only with you i really tend to joke and somehow you pick the frequency just fine...It make sense now...The law of magnetism has been confirmed powerfully...
Path to self-realization is the only way if you want to heal ...
Just don't expect the doctors to do all the thing ... As you said they were consider you dead long ago..The body can't be reproduced in a human factory...They can't produce 1:1 hands or organs so there is more to this..
Get happy ...
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Continuing on the off topic subject, since there's tons of Artic islands information to discuss (NOT.....
), the decision to not do the treatments, came about relative to what isn't known about said condition which there is quite a lot of unknowns, and that said treatments are quite blunt options on something that is very delicate to begin with.....As some may have surmised with the hints so far, i'm talking about the brain and being diagnosed with a tumor that has been there what feels like forever, as it's been there way longer than the 8 years since the diagnosis, as these things take time to grow and when it was seen for the first time, it was already huge by any standard.....It's called a astrocytoma, and in my case after a biopsy was performed 8 years ago, it was classified as a grade 2 variant (they go from 1 to 4 variants), and it was roughly 2 inches wide and high by 2 1/2 inches long on the left side of the brain.....It grew since then length wise, but has remained stable size wise for the last 4 years for an unknown reason......For those used to the metric system, that's 5 centimeters wide and high, by 6 centimeters long, and at it's peak reached nearly 10 centimeters long, with the other 2 dimensions hitting 6 centimeters.
It was mainly the size of the thing and the location that scared the neurologist shitless, and the fact that it eventually mutates into a grade 3 or grade 4 on it's own, which are considered necrotic so it destroys everything it touches......The location of the beast in question is surrounded healthy brain tissue deep in the left lobe of the brain, and parked right beside one of the brain's main arteries in that area, making an operation tricky as the artery could rupture while undergoing the procedure, killing me there and then, so the brain surgeon didn't want to touch this with a 10 foot pole....
So I started to ask about the other options, mainly chemotherapy and radio therapy. and with regards to the brain those are also risky since for those that don't know, the brain stops developing once it's reaches it's adult phase which is usually once a person hit's their 20's, and stops replicating cells and growing altogether......From that point onwards, it is what it is until said individual kicks the proverbial bucket....
So chemotherapy and radiotherapy's main problem, is that while valid options for anywhere else in the body, is pretty debatable when it comes to the brain after it's reached that adult phase, since neither option distinguishes between good or bad cells and wipes it all out, especially radiotherapy (it's called radio necrosis).....Add that we still don't know what causes these things to appear, but it's not family bloodline related, as the number of cases aren't any higher no matter if there were direct family members that had it or not, so that's not it.
As a general case, grade 2 astrocytoma's usually manifest themselves in people in their early 20's, yet here I was diagnosed with mine at age 36 so I may have had it for a long time without ever knowing it, and it took an epileptic seizure, and subsequent MRI scan to reveal itself......Yes, life can kick you in the nuts with no warning at all, keep that in mind.....
The shocking thing and the main reason why I didn't do the treatments, though the reasons above would be plenty, is the total lack of symptoms other that the seizures, which are gone now if you're wondering...(
)That area of the brain is supposed to control on the intellectual side of things:
Memory.
Speaking.
Reading.
Writing.
General understanding, deduction, reasoning.
On the physical side of things:
Right side body movement in general.
Strength.
Coordination between right and left.
Balance.
Sensitivity.
Dexterity.
It's also supposed to cause massive headaches that can last days, given the size of the thing and the extra room it takes up, forcing at least part of the brain against the skull and it's kind of a tight fit in there to say the least....Not a damn thing in all of the above, yet the standard theory states that it's supposed to be dead tissue or at the very least malfunctioning, and plasticity.....The brains ability to transfer functions elsewhere comes into play, but if that's the case and given the huge size involved here, because small it is not, then why do we have such large brains in the first place?....
The brain uses up a lot of energy to keep it going, so I had doubts it had this much to spare not really doing anything to put it mildly, and the latest test ( called an EEG), shows that the tumor in question no longer is interfering with the brain in terms of it's electrical functions anymore, something which they've never seen before.....My case is unique at this point.
I had done the same test 8 years ago and the electrical interference was there, and the condition overall is supposed to get worse, not better as I don't need the medication for the seizures anymore, they've stopped which was the only symptom to begin with.....So, now i'm scheduled for an MRI to see this thing in my noggin in visual terms, not just electrically like the EEG, and if it confirms both the EEG's results, the only symptom going away and having no need for the medication anymore.....I have a good feeling about this..
Depending on the results, they still have samples of the biopsy I did 8 years ago, and can compare it with one taken now to see if there's differences in the DNA itself from the same individual just taken at a different time.....If there are within the chromosomes that control brain development specifically, it greatly reduces the amount of searching......The answer they seek may be in there, and could lead to a cure for everyone that has the same thing.....It'll never kill anyone ever again.
I just had to make one hell of a Gamble, accept the risks of what i'm doing ( yup, even death), and ride it out....I'm just that crazy...
There is an "easy" cure for the tumor.The body made it..The body will heal it too...I didn't have the tumor so i can't say from my own experience.I had something else that implied seizure...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigeminal_neuralgia
This medical condition was made from a hit in the maxilar when i was 8th.This was challenging for the doctors for many years except one doctor...Because of this i gone rogue with my healing and discovered a whole new universe..
I am very happy to say that i healed my mind and my head without those medications and interventions on physical body that are prescribed specifically for the trigeminal condition..
You can begin to heal yourself without destructive treatment..You can use doctors to test your own-healing progress.There is an alternative way.If you are open i may talk about it on pm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigeminal_neuralgia
This medical condition was made from a hit in the maxilar when i was 8th.This was challenging for the doctors for many years except one doctor...Because of this i gone rogue with my healing and discovered a whole new universe..
I am very happy to say that i healed my mind and my head without those medications and interventions on physical body that are prescribed specifically for the trigeminal condition..
You can begin to heal yourself without destructive treatment..You can use doctors to test your own-healing progress.There is an alternative way.If you are open i may talk about it on pm.
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I'd say it goes on a case by case basis, and mine was weird from day one given it's size and relative lack of symptoms, but there was this huge thing there and it it's not supposed to be there in the first place, so the only thing I can say is that I didn't cave in to the fear of what it can do to me, and i'm still not completely out of the woods until that MRI scan happens and shows nothing there......Doctors might still want me to do them in routine intervals even in that case (perhaps once a year), to make sure it doesn't come back but that's a minor annoyance given the path so far.
I did have a friend from England that was diagnosed with the same thing some 4 years ago, and in his case it was a stage 3 version, so it's necrotic but was smaller and located in an area much easier to operate, so he did the operation and also the chemo and radio therapy afterwards.
It was looking good for a while, but a little over a year ago it came back and more violent that before ( stage 4), and there's nothing else to do......He's on his last few weeks......
Even if the body can create it's own cure, for some conditions it can take a long time, and if said condition evolves too quickly and the body simply doesn't have enough time, the options on the table are what they are......I was being monitored regularly by medical staff every 3 months, and even putting myself to the test by doing activities that forces that particular area of the brain to work, to see if drop in abilities was manifesting itself but in a very gradual and slow manner, and luckily it didn't for reasons still unknown.
But the medical options available were never far from my mind, but i'd only consider them once the other symptoms were starting to become apparent, or the tumor changed to a stage 3 or 4.....I wouldn't have the luxury of time then.....Obviously the artery either becoming pinched and keeping the blood from flowing or just flat out rupturing was also a considerable risk, but at least in this case, death comes quickly so there's not much pain involved....Minutes at most.
Having seen what slow and humiliating deaths look like with my parents, especially my mom as no one thinks about Alzheimer's at 56 years old when it first started (they think it's old person's disease), I could deal with that.....
So ... if you want to live with your tumor then there are some positive sides with having it.Here are some articles.
http://themighty.com/2014/09/artist...his-paintings-before-he-even-knew-it-existed/
Also this is not a brain tumor but a brain damage after a hit in the head:
http://www.livescience.com/45349-brain-injury-turns-man-into-math-genius.html
Here are some more:
http://weburbanist.com/2009/07/12/stroke-of-genius-abilities-borne-of-brain-damage/
Discover the positive abilities that your tumor gives you ... I do feel what you will discover will be gold for you and for others...Enjoy
All love for you mate ...
http://themighty.com/2014/09/artist...his-paintings-before-he-even-knew-it-existed/
Also this is not a brain tumor but a brain damage after a hit in the head:
http://www.livescience.com/45349-brain-injury-turns-man-into-math-genius.html
Here are some more:
http://weburbanist.com/2009/07/12/stroke-of-genius-abilities-borne-of-brain-damage/
Discover the positive abilities that your tumor gives you ... I do feel what you will discover will be gold for you and for others...Enjoy
All love for you mate ...