Showdown Fury X vs 980ti

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I think way too much emphasis has been put on its lower than expected performance in regards to the competition. Yes it lags behind in lower than 4k res and that's a bit dissapointing but it also has other atributes that still make the Fury X a compelling purchase.

1) Very quiet at load
2) AIO cooler that keeps the gpu below 60c in normal gaming situations
3) Awesome cfx scaling when it works
4) More than enough performance to play today's games up to 4k
5) looks great...For me at least
6) It's small form factor
7) Hbm and it's super high bw
8) Points 3, 4 and 7 will only get better as drivers mature over time.
 
BababooeyHTJ said:
It could still be. The cooler and/or power limit is holding that card back. Even at stock. There are ways around the both. Probably going to cost you money though.
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Agreed, but we have to base our numbers on cards as they come out of the box IMHO.

My ACX 2.0+ boosts to ~1240 with stock custom AIB cooler. I recently fitted an Arctic Hybrid Xtreme and without any changes to overclocking/power settings it now boost straight to 1304 and stays there. It will OC to ~1530MHz core but I did not use those numbers to inflate how well a 980Ti overclocks.

Out of the box, how well does a 980Ti OC from stock and I would expect from 10% - 20%. Anything else is a bonus. :)
 
Spyhawk said:
I think way too much emphasis has been put on its lower than expected performance in regards to the competition. Yes it lags behind in lower than 4k res and that's a bit dissapointing but it also has other atributes that still make the Fury X a compelling purchase.

1) Very quiet at load ( so are custom 980tis)
2) AIO cooler that keeps the gpu below 60c in normal gaming situations (doesn't matter as long as temps are managed and isn't loud)
3) Awesome cfx scaling when it works
4) More than enough performance to play today's games up to 4k
5) looks great...For me at least (subjective)
6) It's small form factor (not really a selling point as even most itx cases nowadays have room for big cards)
7) Hbm and it's super high bw (irrelevant to actual gaming performance)
8) Points 3, 4 and 7 will only get better as drivers mature over time.
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650 bucks for a gpu and performance isn't the top concern? lol much?
 
nycdarkness said:
Too late on the monopoly lol. The fury x is really tough sell, and it's not a decision made off logic imo or better benefit. The fury air will have to be seen.

AMD is winning where it counts atm imo. 329 for a 390x 8GB is tremendous value. Makes the 4gb 960 stupid pointless, 970 out of the competition, and 980 all look somewhat silly. The fury x however, I will stick to what I've said is a fanboy card, at 525-550 it would of been a slam dunk.
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429 for a 390x 8gb. Not 329.
 
nycdarkness said:
Well if the refs didn't have such a shitty cooler, they could of put a higher base clock. These things should of been 1250 out the door with 1400 boost.
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Even with a good cooler those numbers are not viable for a stock card. The overclock potential would be almost zero. My stock custom cooled ACX 2.0 SC would only do ~1420 overclock (max effective) without adding volts. 1150 core and 1300 effective would be more realistic IMHO.
 
BababooeyHTJ said:
It could still be. The cooler and/or power limit is holding that card back. Even at stock. There are ways around the both. Probably going to cost you money though.

Either way, these cards clearly scale well with overclocks. It's the main reason that I went with one over a fury x.
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Yep, waited for Fury reviews at 4K and while it traded blows with a stock 980Ti all bets were off when overclocked. The fact there is no voltage control (as of yet) for Fury X and the 2GB less VRAM made the 980Ti an obvious choice.
 
nycdarkness said:
650 bucks for a gpu and performance isn't the top concern? lol much?
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Performance is still tops for me but what I'm getting at is that the furyx's performance is still good enough for me even though it lags behind the ti. I feel the points I enumerated in my earlier post make up for the performance difference.
 
catso said:
Even with a good cooler those numbers are not viable for a stock card. The overclock potential would be almost zero. My stock custom cooled ACX 2.0 SC would only do ~1420 overclock (max effective) without adding volts. 1150 core and 1300 effective would be more realistic IMHO.
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1350 would be fine. OC headroom is not always a given and a gamble. People buy cards with no oc headroom all the time. Latest one being mentioned in this thread :bleh:
 
Spyhawk said:
Performance is still tops for me but what I'm getting at is that the furyx's performance is still good enough for me even though it lags behind the ti. I feel the points I enumerated in my earlier post make up for the performance difference.
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None of the points aside from form factor and hmb isn't also offered by the competition. With the main one being performance and also IN MY EXPERIENCE day one drivers or quick enough release of a driver update.
 
nycdarkness said:
1350 would be fine. OC headroom is not always a given and a gamble. People buy cards with no oc headroom all the time. Latest one being mentioned in this thread :bleh:
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It's not just the OC headroom but the potential for failures given the very small delta between stock speeds and graphical artifacting territory. Even with custom AIB coolers some 980Ti cards need extra volts to reach 1400 core.
 
nycdarkness said:
None of the points aside from form factor and hmb isn't also offered by the competition. With the main one being performance and also IN MY EXPERIENCE day one drivers or quick enough release of a driver update.
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I think you underestimate the importance to many people of powerfull, small, attractive and cool running graphic card solutions. And yes the Fury X is all that.
 
nycdarkness said:
None of the points aside from form factor and hmb isn't also offered by the competition. With the main one being performance and also IN MY EXPERIENCE day one drivers or quick enough release of a driver update.
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yes love them day one drivers that crash to desktop in games and driver stopped responding and has recovered in chrome and internet explorer 3 or 4 times a day
for close to 2 months :hmm:


the fury is better at 4k in cfx .
 
bill dennison said:
yes love them day one drivers that crash to desktop in games and driver stopped responding and has recovered in chrome and internet explorer 3 or 4 times a day
for close to 2 months :hmm:
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The driver stopped responding errors with Chrome have been fixed with the latest hotfix driver. I know, because I had the problem and after updating I no longer do. Dunno about any crashes in games not related to unstable overclocks...
 
Spyhawk said:
I think you underestimate the importance to many people of powerfull, small, attractive and cool running graphic card solutions. And yes the Fury X is all that.
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Yea okay buddy. Rad is part of the deal when you talk about space considerations. Small form factor builds are getting popular, but show me a popular itx case that can't accept a long gpu. No big case manu is that stupid these days. And also attractive is very subjective the card is ass ugly to me.
 
bill dennison said:
yes love them day one drivers that crash to desktop in games and driver stopped responding and has recovered in chrome and internet explorer 3 or 4 times a day
for close to 2 months :hmm:


the fury is better at 4k in cfx .
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Why do you even buy NV cards, you seem to not like your own purchases lol. It was what one driver which got a hotfix and on top I never even had the chrome crash on 1 system but I did have it on the other.
 
nycdarkness said:
Why do you even buy NV cards, you seem to not like your own purchases lol. It was what one driver which got a hotfix and on top I never even had the chrome crash on 1 system but I did have it on the other.
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I have both because sli/cfx and some time if a game won't work with one it may with the other, like killing floor 2 cfx works sli does not right now

i'm just not bamboozled into believing the drivers are all that much better both have problems

I had months of 680 vsync stutter to
 
nycdarkness said:
Yea okay buddy. Rad is part of the deal when you talk about space considerations. Small form factor builds are getting popular, but show me a popular itx case that can't accept a long gpu. No big case manu is that stupid these days. And also attractive is very subjective the card is ass ugly to me.
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Yes I agree that the rad will be an issue to some people and I also agree not everyone agrees with me on how gorgeous the card looks(even though in the threads I've read on the Fury X, most seem to like the looks of it) but I never said this was a card for everyone. Only that MANY will find this card attractive for the reasons I inumerated and that's why even at 650$ this card will still sell.
 
ShaidarHaran said:
The driver stopped responding errors with Chrome have been fixed with the latest hotfix driver. I know, because I had the problem and after updating I no longer do. Dunno about any crashes in games not related to unstable overclocks...
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A lot of people are complaining of constant crashing in TW3. I'm one of them. Just tried it for the first time yesterday. Crashed every 15 minutes.
 
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