Serious Sam: Second Ecounter

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What kind of framerates are most of you getting? I'm almost always in the red. If I'm in the green, it's the low 20's, rarely the 30's. My brothers Kyro 2 can get way better framerates than my Radeon 8500.
 
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do you have the 6043 drivers?
also, dont try to play it in smoothvision.

with 6043 (well actually before those), i played at 1024x768, no smoothvision, and i never noticed lag.

what i did was, set the video settings to 'speed'. then go back in, turn on truform (if you like it), LOD quality, and anistropic filtering. the game ran great, fast, and looked great too.
 
I am using the Ti4600, so I don't count. I play at 1152x864 with
64-tap aniso, Quincux AA and maxxed game detail for an almost constant minimum of 43 or 44 fps outside, in the beginning, after you get away from the water, sometimes jumping up into the 60s and settling down in the low 50s. Inside, it is anywhere from 65 or so to 190.
 
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Actually Soul Rage, your post *does* count for alot.

I was considering picking up a Ti4600 to try in SS:SE, but now that you have verified it gets the same or worse framerates than my 8500, I guess there wont be any need in that!

I play it at 1024x768x32, all settings maxed, 4xPerformance AA, max anisotropy and it plays fantastic and looks amazing. I'm easily in the 45-65 fps range on my P4-2.0ghz system. Bummer to hear the $460 Ti I was thinking of picking up is doing absolutely no better and with no indication if the IQ is anywhere up to snuff compared to the 8500. I sure know my GF3 looks like doggy doody in this game with all the texture shimmering and even max anisotropy isn't helping one bit.

Thanks for the info!
-Shark
 
Soul Rage said:
I am using the Ti4600, so I don't count. I play at 1152x864 with
64-tap aniso, Quincux AA and maxxed game detail for an almost constant minimum of 43 or 44 fps outside, in the beginning, after you get away from the water, sometimes jumping up into the 60s and settling down in the low 50s. Inside, it is anywhere from 65 or so to 190.

Again, I don't count.
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You don't count? Take some math classes. They'll teach you.
(poor attempt at humor). BTW, anyone able to finish SS:SE without the cheats?
 
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Actually Soul Rage, your post *does* count for alot.

I was considering picking up a Ti4600 to try in SS:SE, but now that you have verified it gets the same or worse framerates than my 8500, I guess there wont be any need in that!

I play it at 1024x768x32, all settings maxed, 4xPerformance AA, max anisotropy and it plays fantastic and looks amazing. I'm easily in the 45-65 fps range on my P4-2.0ghz system. Bummer to hear the $460 Ti I was thinking of picking up is doing absolutely no better and with no indication if the IQ is anywhere up to snuff compared to the 8500. I sure know my GF3 looks like doggy doody in this game with all the texture shimmering and even max anisotropy isn't helping one bit.

Thanks for the info!
-Shark
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Don't get all weird on me, o.k? I don't buy a word of what you just wrote, unless you are referring to inside areas or later areas I haven't been to yet. Read my whole post, I was referring to the first part, that section after you get out of the water. Of course you get the fps you stated INSIDE. Also, my anisotropic IS executed more slowly than yours, but I don't have to deal with ugly banding at all. IQ wise, I am sorry, but this cannot be beat right now. Fact.
No need to get all riled up and insecure, I was just stating facts.
 
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I am using the Ti4600, so I don't count. I play at 1152x864 with
64-tap aniso, Quincux AA and maxxed game detail for an almost constant minimum of 43 or 44 fps outside, in the beginning, after you get away from the water, sometimes jumping up into the 60s and settling down in the low 50s. Inside, it is anywhere from 65 or so to 190.

Again, I don't count.
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Hey SR.
I'm not to keen on quincux...how does it do with 4x?
(I'm honestly very curious). 64-tap = 8x on the aniso (albeit superior to the Radeon's) but are you using trilear simultaneously? That must look nice.

Mize
 
No offense but I don't trust a gamer that offers using Quincunx as their setting of choice and offering supreme IQ.
 
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Hey SR.
I'm not to keen on quincux...how does it do with 4x?
(I'm honestly very curious). 64-tap = 8x on the aniso (albeit superior to the Radeon's) but are you using trilear simultaneously? That must look nice.

Mize
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With 4x it hangs at about 38 fps consistently in that first, hardware beating scene, and I wanted it a little higher. With quincux, you do get some more performance, and with 64-tap (level 8) aniso, it still looks supreme, and yes I always use trilinear. If you are inside at all, the fps stays up very high, for 4x AA and full, unbanded level 8 aniso. The lowest I've seen inside with those settings is 52.
 
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No offense but I don't trust a gamer that offers using Quincunx as their setting of choice and offering supreme IQ.
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It's called best bang for the buck, quincux smooths edges very well, with a significantly lower performance hit usually, while aniso cleans it up nicely. IQ out the ass. Homework, man, do it.
 
You're talking about Quinxunx:

with a significantly lower performance hit usually, while aniso cleans it up nicely
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I am going to use your words here but switch things:

I am talking about Anisotrophy:

with a significantly lower performance hit usually, while the FSAA cleans it up nicely.
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Your nit-picks on anisotrophy.... you forget that the AA cleans this up even more with the latest drivers.

I can prove it.
 
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Oh, and I also forgot to mention that this is all in OpenGL at stock speeds. I don't run with the card oced like that usually, it just will so it stays in the sig. I'll keep it oced when I need to.
 
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SIrPauly said:
You're talking about Quinxunx:



I am going to use your words here but switch things:

I am talking about Anisotrophy:



Your nit-picks on anisotrophy.... you forget that the AA cleans this up even more with the latest drivers.

I can prove it.
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Please do, I love to learn new things. Making sense might also help a little.;)
 
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Sure is..... that 399 MSRP is sure the best bang for the buck - so I can game in Quincunx. Have fun.
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Performance wise, I wasn't talking literal money, I couldn't care less how much it costs. Come on, foolish man.:(
 
My post in here was NOT meant to stir up insecure ATi die-hards. What a waste of time. I am outta this thread. You guys should do the same thing. What a waste of energy.
 
ss:se was a strain for me to run with my system, in big outdoor areas it didnt usually go below 30, this was with the extreme quality add on thing and 2x sv and yes i completed it on hard with no cheats, difficult game, serious seems impossible
Dave
 
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