Official nVidia 3d, IZ3D or other solution Stereo Thread

3D vision is dead. This is coming from a long time, die hard 3D vision /IZ3D supporter.

3D vision was good during the Helix days years ago, where fixes were incoming by regular users.

These days, fixes are rare and often complicated to install. The 3d fix for Dragon Age Inquisition and several other DX11 titles were a convoluted nightmare, and it only worked on Windows 7.

Tech wise, VR is far more immersive that standard 3D. Standard 3D just seems severely limited now, it's completely dead for me. Meanwhile VR is surging as expected. Just look at the VR thread just above this.
 
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3D vision is dead. This is coming from a long time, die hard 3D vision /IZ3D supporter.

3D vision was good during the Helix days years ago, where fixes were incoming by regular users.

These days, fixes are rare and often complicated to install. The 3d fix for Dragon Age Inquisition and several other DX11 titles were a convoluted nightmare, and it only worked on Windows 7.

Tech wise, VR is far more immersive that standard 3D. Standard 3D just seems severely limited now, it's completely dead for me. Meanwhile VR is surging as expected. Just look at the VR thread just above this.
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A shame too. Games are so much more immersive in 3d when they are done right. Amazing how much more of the little details you notice when playing in 3d.
 
jjjayb said:
A shame too. Games are so much more immersive in 3d when they are done right. Amazing how much more of the little details you notice when playing in 3d.
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Yes, and I bought a 65" 4k 3DTV just to play 3DVision games with Helix fixes in full 3d glory :lol:

The last game I played with 3D Vision (or more accurately 3DTV play in my case) was Alien Isolation. Wonderful game in 3D to play on a big screen. Haven't played the VR version yet but will soon to compare.
 
I played Alien Isolation in 3D Vision with the HelixMod and it was fantastic. However, I just played the Mother VR mod on the Rift and it is absolutely amazing! you have to close one eye to read pop up txt because they are so close but otherwise it's truly unbelievable.
 
Catfish2222 said:
I played Alien Isolation in 3D Vision with the HelixMod and it was fantastic. However, I just played the Mother VR mod on the Rift and it is absolutely amazing! you have to close one eye to read pop up txt because they are so close but otherwise it's truly unbelievable.
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I don't even want to try it. Already Alien Isolation got my blood racing so much that I never finished it. Actually I got stuck in the medical lab (where many people did too) and my current save always gets me in trouble with the alien.
 
As these technologies are basically defunct, I vote to unsticky this thread and let it be buried in the old thread graveyard.
 
bill dennison said:
I vote to leave it a sticky as a grave marker to another NVidia proprietary abandonware :bleh:
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Just like AMD HD3D, right bill? :bleh:

You know, the competitor to 3d vision that AMD abandoned literally overnight in a driver update that disabled AMD3D? Without telling users or developers?

At least 3d vision is still supported as legacy with latest drivers. You can still use 3d vision if you want to. Cant say the same for AMD or IZ3D.
 
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Just like AMD HD3D, right bill? :bleh:

You know, the competitor to 3d vision that AMD abandoned literally overnight in a driver update that disabled AMD3D? Without telling users or developers?

At least 3d vision is still supported as legacy with latest drivers. You can still use 3d vision if you want to. Cant say the same for AMD or IZ3D.
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The upcoming metro game is listed as 3d vision ready as well.
 
jimjobob said:
The upcoming metro game is listed as 3d vision ready as well.
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That's great. I think it was part of the deal they had with Nvidia when Metro first came out to be 3D Vision ready, kinda like Resident Evil 5 (great games to play with 3D Vision).

I was surprised even the new Two Worlds II CoT expansion included a launcher for 3D Vision.

I guess 3D Vision is still technically alive for those few users left, even if it's from only a handful of developers. IZ3D went bankrupt but AMD really has no excuse for dropping AMD HD3D. HD3D was technically in the market for what, barely 6 months before they pulled the plug? I was mad as **** when I had my Radeon HD5870 and AMD killed my 3d gaming overnight. Had no choice but to go out the next day and get a GTX 280 or whatever was Nvidia's counterpart to the 5870 at that time.

VR is fast becoming the new standard though.
 
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VR is fast becoming the new standard though.
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I don't know about that. Though it does have a much greater backing from a certain industry that has a long history of deciding what formats succeed.

I think the biggest problem with 3d adoption for games was that on the console side it was garbage due to the crap options for 3d on tv's for so long. Save for DLP, crosstalk was bad with active, glasses were too expensive to buy a bunch for a family sized audience and the for games, the resolution cut caused for a muddy picture. For passive, 1080p was not enough to support it because it created a screen door type effect. 4K passive fixes all the problems but is only available on the ultra high end. Want good 3d in a tv, your only real option due to Sony's light bleed issues on their tvs that had it, is an LG OLED. It's no wonder why it didn't catch on with consoles. On the PC side it was fantastic but suffered from the fact that only one graphics vendor supported it properly. Couple that with the crazy mentality of "I'm going to lock myself into AMD as a vendor because I dont want to enjoy the benefits Nvidia has to offer so much that i get locked into them"........

I have had Rift and PSVR since they released and have not played a game in vr in quite some time but just finised Uncharted LL in 2d to 3d conversion because even that crap 3d adds enough depth to make for a better experience.
 
saumilsingh said:
VR is still decades from attaining mass appeal (if not never).

Maybe I lack vision, but I doubt it.
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I think you do lack vision. It already has mass appeal with PS VR, Oculus, Vive, Samsung Gear, etc.. along with new players like Microsoft.

I think the biggest problem with 3d adoption for games was that on the console side it was garbage due to the crap options for 3d on tv's for so long. Save for DLP, crosstalk was bad with active, glasses were too expensive to buy a bunch for a family sized audience and the for games, the resolution cut caused for a muddy picture. For passive, 1080p was not enough to support it because it created a screen door type effect. 4K passive fixes all the problems but is only available on the ultra high end. Want good 3d in a tv, your only real option due to Sony's light bleed issues on their tvs that had it, is an LG OLED. It's no wonder why it didn't catch on with consoles. On the PC side it was fantastic but suffered from the fact that only one graphics vendor supported it properly. Couple that with the crazy mentality of "I'm going to lock myself into AMD as a vendor because I dont want to enjoy the benefits Nvidia has to offer so much that i get locked into them"........
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The very problems you listed is the very reason 3D gaming on the flat screen is dead. There is literally only a handful of people supporting 3D Vision at the Helix blog.

VR has already exceeded whatever marketshare 3D Vision had during its peak (and it's peak was a decade ago) and its only getting bigger.

I was a long time 3D gamer but there is ZERO appeal for me to go back. I'd rather games come out specifically for VR instead (and they are).

Remember how us 3D gamers used to yap about how 3D gaming offers a level of immersion you can't get from regular 2D gaming? Well now the same is true for VR versus regular 3D gaming. VR puts YOU in the center of the gaming and the level of immersion makes regular 3D gaming PALE in comparison. Sorry but it's just the way technology and progression works. 3D gaming is a dinosaur basically going extinct, VR games is the next logical level and we're there now. I can only imagine the exciting progressions VR will make over the next 5, 10, 15 years before something even more newer and exciting takes its place (augmented/holographic gaming?)

3D gaming is basically dead. Just accept it. I read over the 3D Vision forums today and was amused how those few members were complaining that yet another long time helix coder has moved on.
 
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I will get into VR gaming once the tech improves more, probably when we see the 2nd generation of the various devices out now. I still get enjoyment out 3D Vision gaming although I don't game as much as I used to overall. Playing Witcher 3 with a first person camera mod and no HUD looks amazing still.
 
An excellent comparison would be Alien Isolation VR vs Alien Isolation 3D Vision.

Having tried both, the Helix fix version doesn't come even close to level of scariness, let alone immersion, of the VR version.

There's quite a difference between watching "outside a window" and actually looking up at the Alien. :lol:
 
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An excellent comparison would be Alien Isolation VR vs Alien Isolation 3D Vision.

Having tried both, the Helix fix version doesn't come even close to level of scariness, let alone immersion, of the VR version.

There's quite a difference between watching "outside a window" and actually looking up at the Alien. :lol:
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Oh yeah, the level of immersion increases quite a bit going from 2D >>> 3D >>> VR. I enjoyed playing some games on friend's Oculus and PS4 VR systems. I am looking forward to what the next wave of devices will offer, but really don't have the disposable income I used to have to get a current implementation. One of my dream VR games is a Ultima Underworld/Arx Fatalis style dungeon crawler for VR with next-gen graphics.
 
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