Official: "Favorite Racing Videos" Thread

Mahjik said:
Not being fully on the gas or fully on the brake (unless in a turn) is considered coasting. ;)

You need to work on using the brakes harder. The braking zones are really long because you aren't using enough brake. That basically gives the impression of coasting (which the experienced guys still call it coasting). Basically, you need to brake later and harder.

You should really come out to a NASA event and have one of our instructors (whether with Central Region or Great Lakes Region) work with you. They will get you up to speed in just a weekend.
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We're watching the same video here. We both can see what went wrong and where. Some brake zones I intentionally braked soft (Kink, not a place I'm looking to go fast right now), others need a lot of work (T1) and just focus on what I'm doing a bit more. Others I'm doing fine for now (T5, Canada Corner...braking at 3.5). A lot of places I was intentionally maintaining throttle.

It's an HPDE. I'm not going to go crazy the first day with that car there on one of the fastest tracks in the country and stuff it into a wall. Practice and seat time. I'll make some corrections next time I'm there. No need to rush it, that's how you play ping-pong off the walls after the Kink like an Audi S4 did that day.
 
Mahjik said:
If I could get a slot open up on Sept 29th for you at RPM with the KC Exotic car group, would you be interested in coming out? I'll be there with some of my instructors.
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Interested...always. But there's no way I could commit to that any time soon. It depends on cost, my schedule, and the weather.
 
Mahjik said:
You still want the proper track technique even if you aren't pushing. Braking lightly heats up the brakes more since you are on them longer and increases wear. Technique isn't about competing.
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I know that, it's basic stuff. Come on, man. I really can't help but feel annoyed by a lot of this. Knowing and doing are two different things. Seat time and practice. Unless those instructors can meet me at Road America, I'm going to do the same thing when I go back there. There was a reason I put myself in the novice group.
 
OverclockN' said:
I know that, it's basic stuff. Come on, man. I really can't help but feel annoyed by a lot of this. Knowing and doing are two different things. Seat time and practice. Unless those instructors can meet me at Road America, I'm going to do the same thing when I go back there. There was a reason I put myself in the novice group.
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If you post up something public, be prepared for some criticism. Either don't post or ignore it.


As for your comment, that is incorrect. You don't need to be instructed at the exact same track just to improve. We teach the fundamentals that give drivers the skills to learn any track that they visit. There is a lot to learn padawan.
 
Mahjik said:
If you post up something public, be prepared for some criticism. Either don't post or ignore it.


As for your comment, that is incorrect. You don't need to be instructed at the exact same track just to improve. We teach the fundamentals that give drivers the skills to learn any track that they visit. There is a lot to learn padawan.
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It's not the criticism of the video, it's the coddling of basic information. We can't ever seem to get on the same page. A good example is what you just said above. Of course the information carries from one track to another, why wouldn't it? That's just common sense. The point I was attempting to make had nothing to do with the skill set learned and carried over.

An instructor will help enforce and make me practice the stuff I already know and should be doing every time, but don't. There always something new to learn, which is why I always grab an instructor when I can. But the stuff you're carrying on about is basic 101. Knowing and doing are two different things. Seat time. It's not the criticism, it's your approach. You come off very condescending and insulting.
 
Mahjik said:
Doing enforces knowing. From what I'm seeing, there isn't much knowing...
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Sure - that's a fair point, a person can only assume certain things based on the information given. I'm usually more concerned with having fun with my buddies at these events and don't focus on things very well. An instructor would certainly help enforce doing it the right way every time and make it more consistent.

However, you're making it very difficult to want to join you at any event, due to your approach. Its like a doctor and their bedside manners. As an instructor, I find it surprising that you don't seem to care.
 
Nunz said:
Thanks for recommending Brad btw, ordering the amsoil sig series once he gives me the total $ amount.

He made it real easy!
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Skimmed over this. Good to hear! Brad is a good guy and has treated me right over the years. Lots of knowledge and very helpful. Good luck!

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Commited to running Mid Ohio this weekend with MVP. Going to do 2 days. They also said there were plenty of instructors this time (not enough at RA). Should be fun, weather looks great right now. Never been to this track before, but my buddy says its a good one. Looks easy on brakes and hard on tires.

Car is still packed up and ready to go from Road America. Just want to pop the wheels off and check the front brakes. Something is squeaking on the front left. Will find foam or a pillow to put under my rear...8hrs is a long haul. :lol:
 
OverclockN' said:
However, you're making it very difficult to want to join you at any event, due to your approach. Its like a doctor and their bedside manners. As an instructor, I find it surprising that you don't seem to care.
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I don't to be honest. I offer help. If people want it, they take it. If they don't, I don't care. I'm not the only way to get better. There are videos, books, articles, seminars, schools, etc.. I'm offering it for free.

OverclockN' said:
An instructor would certainly help enforce doing it the right way every time and make it more consistent.
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I will say, if this is what you are expecting from an instructor, then the instructor isn't providing what will help you from a skillset perspective. What I teach (as well as my region since I created the program) is explaining and ensuring the understanding of "why" certain things need to happen when, what do they do from a "finding the line" perspective as well as from a car dynamics perspective.

If you have an instructor and all he or she is doing is showing you how to drive the track you are at, you won't be building useful skills.
 
Mahjik said:
I will say, if this is what you are expecting from an instructor, then the instructor isn't providing what will help you from a skillset perspective. What I teach (as well as my region since I created the program) is explaining and ensuring the understanding of "why" certain things need to happen when, what do they do from a "finding the line" perspective as well as from a car dynamics perspective.

If you have an instructor and all he or she is doing is showing you how to drive the track you are at, you won't be building useful skills.
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No, that's not all I expect. Of course not, that would be absurd. But, I get it...once again, you're only working with the information you have.

Can't make it this year, booked up. Maybe next year if it's planned ahead.
 
Had a talk with my friend tonight, who reminded me the new GoPro's we bought this year had GPS built into them. One of my cameras had it turned off, but another had it on. Going back through my videos and adding in the data streams.

Bringing some videos back, but with simple telemetry added. Will do a road course one tomorrow night if I have time. Pretty excited, been wanting to add this stuff back in for a while. :)


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A few laps around Mid Ohio following my friend in his BMW 135is. Another buddy of mine was on the track with his silver e36 M3 that's gutted with a roll bar. Not the first one early in the video, but the next one later on. Good times, fun track.

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Looks good! Careful of the yellow curbing. It's not your friend. The red/white curbing is ok (in the dry). A NASA NP01 about 2 years ago lost it off T1, spun to the inside and hit the wall. I've seen the curbing coming out of the final turn on the outside do the same thing to many cars and send them into the S/F inside wall.
 
Careful of the yellow curbing. It's not your friend. The red/white curbing is ok (in the dry).
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Wow, good to know. Both the instructors I had throughout the first day never mentioned it, even though I was hitting the curbing with them in the car. I assumed the yellow curbing was no difference except color, or is it more their placement with this particular track layout?
 
OverclockN' said:
Wow, good to know. Both the instructors I had throughout the first day never mentioned it, even though I was hitting the curbing with them in the car. I assumed the yellow curbing was no difference except color, or is it more their placement with this particular track layout?
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Unfortunately, not all curbing is created the same. You end up learning which ones on which track you can use (and some of that also depends on when they last painted them). It also depends on how much of the curb you take... If you are only getting a little tire on them, it's not usually a problem. I would just not get into a habit of making your line to use them all the time (i.e. only use the exit of T1 and exit of T13 curbing when/if you overcook the corner).

Unfortunately the video of the NP01 crashing there was taken down or I would post it.
 
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NASA National race in the ST3 class (I run in ST4). This is a built up FI S2000. Everything is power to weight but you can see on a track with long straights that power wins over weight (i.e. a light car won't have the same top end as a heavier car given the same power to weight ratio).


BTW, OverClock'N check out what happens to my buddy at 46s in when he uses too much curb with the front wheels while turning the steering wheel. This is why I mentioned not all curbing is good. You'll see later in the race where he straddles the curbing to avoid that situation.
 
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