New Toyota Supra

Yup I’ve heard the same. Maybe it’ll keep the LE’s sitting on the lots for another year or two and I’ll be able to afford one :lol:

I just paid off the WRX. No more car payment!!
 
I suspect Supra's not moving off the lot has a lot more to it than price alone. However, if they all have ridiculous mark-ups, that's certainly not helping anything.



Nunz said:
I just paid off the WRX. No more car payment!!
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Congratulations!! :) Now the next trick is to never go into car debt again. ;) :p
 
OverclockN' said:
I suspect Supra's not moving off the lot has a lot more to it than price alone. However, if they all have ridiculous mark-ups, that's certainly not helping anything.
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Most of it is price. Over $60k puts it into "decision making" territory. People who were going to buy a Supra, already bought a Supra. People who were going to buy a Vette, already put down their deposit. There was nothing that was going to change any of those minds. However, there is a group that is in the middle. They are people who are not sports car enthusiast but who are now looking for a 3rd "fun" car. Those are the people that are looking for bang for the buck. The Supra is not currently positioned (price wise) to capture that audience.
 
Could also be that with the increased rate of electronic engine adoption, overengineered germain engines, timing chains, pistons become less and less relevant. Harder and harder to rationalize getting that "fast" car that gets outgunned by a dad with his two kids in the Model 3. Another report just came out speaking to the resale value for gas powered cars will keep falling.
 
Mahjik said:
Most of it is price. Over $60k puts it into "decision making" territory. People who were going to buy a Supra, already bought a Supra. People who were going to buy a Vette, already put down their deposit. There was nothing that was going to change any of those minds. However, there is a group that is in the middle. They are people who are not sports car enthusiast but who are now looking for a 3rd "fun" car. Those are the people that are looking for bang for the buck. The Supra is not currently positioned (price wise) to capture that audience.
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Sure, we're both just speculating here. Neither of us have the facts. ;)
 
Not gonna lie, if the Supra dropped down to the $40-45k area for a base model, I could swing that.
 
Yeah the Supra is expensive.
Its in a price realm where there are a lot of options, even if a lot of the options aren't pure sports cars.
 
Still love it, still would buy it. ;) However, I'm done buying vehicles for a while but I'm holding out to see what's on the roadmap for the next generation Lotus vehicles.
 
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The Toyota Supra is ready to go racing, and Toyota is officially announcing all the specs for the competition ready GR Supra GT4 after previously teasing it with a concept. Sales start in Europe in March 2020, North America in August, and Asia in October. Toyota only offers European pricing at the moment, and the GT4 goes for €175,000 there ($194,395 at current exchange rates).
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https://www.motor1.com/news/379191/toyota-supra-gt4-race-car/


I would have been surprised if they didn't have a race car version from the factory. There are some very big racing organizations over in Asia which Toyota has competed in over the years.
 
Yeah, lazy reporting by Jalop (though typical for them) and nearly as bad as Motor Trends C8 Dyno debacle.

There is nothing even remotely close to stock on that engine in the Supra. I can't recall him sleeving the block or anything, so MAYBE the bare block and crank are bone stock. The rest, virtually everything else, are custom parts. And not even parts you can buy, they were all custom printed and milled by and for Papadakis Racing. He ran a whole YouTube series on the tear down, inspection, and buildup.
 
OverclockN' said:
The rest, virtually everything else, are custom parts.
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The car is still practically new so everything has to be custom. The guy who was tracking it and crashed his even commented that he couldn't get replacement parts for most of the car for months. However, people like this will be creating the blueprints for parts soon to come. This does demonstrate that the core block is pretty stout (not that anything less was expected from a BMW engine).

Sasquach said:
As long as you have 20k lying around
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Power isn't cheap....
 
Mahjik said:
The car is still practically new so everything has to be custom. The guy who was tracking it and crashed his even commented that he couldn't get replacement parts for most of the car for months. However, people like this will be creating the blueprints for parts soon to come. This does demonstrate that the core block is pretty stout (not that anything less was expected from a BMW engine).



Power isn't cheap....
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Thanks for the education. I wasn't aware of any of that.
 
Almost had enough boost to say it was Boost-58 engine... lol

$20,000 is cheap for that, including the parts, materials, shop charges and labour to do that... I wonder if that's Joe Bloe off the street price? :bleh:
 
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