Catalyst 14.7 RC3 are out!

Hapatingjaky said:
I know... :cry:

But miracles do happen.:bleh:
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I think you would have been better off with 3 290x's instead of the 295

but you would have had to water cool them, I was going to add a 3rd 290x dc2 and water cool them if I went 4k
but decided to wait for displayport 1.2a 4k monitor

that the 290x was 1.2a ready or so they say( cross fingers ) is one reason I upgraded from my 7970's
 
t0adp1p3 said:
The funny thing is, there is this theory that only people with problems post and complain and there are thousands of people who do not have issues and hence they don't post.... But if you notice, there are regular people on this forum, who have been here for years. Now out of the regular people who post on this forum who own AMD products, sure does seem like a lot of us have issues. That kind of puts a hole in the theory that thousands of people are having zero issues and only a handful of people aren't. Unless you consider this forum a statistical anomaly..... especially if you also consider the level of expertise on this forum. I think it is more likely that joe schmoe has issues as well, but just assumes oh well and doesn't even know enough to go to forums to complain and instead goes through official channels (poor joe schmoe).

Lets recap:

Out of the handful of regulars who bought cards at 290x's launch, probably about 80% had issues. Out of those who bought 295's, I'd say the problem rate is pretty close to 100% on this board. Darn near every AMD owner has had some issue or another here. Lets not even go into the un-installation of drivers and the nightmare that that can be...

Makes ya wonder if the green side is just as bad?
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I'm using AMD since the engineering sample of the very first card named "Radeon", which I still have stored and working perfectly last time she was in a PC, and which also brought up the very first driver named "Catalyst". I used ATI cards before, but indeed, back then, the drivers were pure crap. Catalyst changed it all.
Never had all those problems the people who post have.
Was the ride always butter-smooth? Nope. But it's well known that the most vocal people on any tech related forum are those which problems. The vast majority without any problem won't bother to post at all.
And I had just as many small issues with my rigs using a nVidia card.
I actually think that right now (as in "nowadays"), the ATI drivers are generally better stability wise than their nVidia counterpart.

But then, for most people, "the grass is always greener on the other side" ;)
 
My X-Fire experience so far as been rather smooth but I don't game as much as some of the other folks here. I also own an Nvidia card 750Ti which is a great card.

Nvidia does support SSAA better in games that don't have AA options and OpenGL. I get the impression Hapatingjaky bought the 295 so to bitch about AMD ;). Just kidding.

Hapatingjaky have you down clocked you 295 to see if the shuttering goes away? Put the 290x as the main card driving the 4K monitor which will allow single card non-X-fire operation for games that do not support (not the fault of AMD or Nvidia, some titles just do not do well with multiple GPU's). I am not seeing this problem wide spread but you are pushing 4K resolution which probably is not ready for prime time especially if you are pushing the settings to the point of hitting a limitation be it Ram, draw calls etc.
 
I'm just talking about regulars in this forum. That's a large percentage of regulars with issues with the new cards. And I'm 42 I've been using amd it nvidia since the beginning as well. Depending on who had what at the time. I think it's worse now IMO.
 
t0adp1p3 said:
I'm just talking about regulars in this forum. That's a large percentage of regulars with issues with the new cards. And I'm 42 I've been using amd it nvidia since the beginning as well. Depending on who had what at the time. I think it's worse now IMO.
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I think I mentioned it once, but I had a couple of 512mb 4850's in X-fire for a long time and enjoyed it. But ever since, gpu advances are such that I haven't felt the need for it again. The 1-gig 5870 I bought after was faster and better than the twin 4850's--and now my single 2GB 7850 @1.05GHz is faster and better than twin 5870's, etc.

I think that with the ubiquity of the LCD dual-gpu rendering (which was all about sheer frame rates from the start) is becoming a dying art--complexity is ratcheting upwards but with ever-diminishing returns. So-called 4k gaming is coming on rapidly, but blink your eyes and there will appear a single gpu that can handle it @ 60fps.

In the old days, overclocking a gpu from 75MHz to 125MHz was quite a big deal. These days, factory clocks are such that 200MHz bumps + a quarter will buy you a cup of coffee, but that's about it...;) As baseline capabilities continue to advance, the custom approaches to increased performance of the past will grow steadily less important. IMO, of course...;) I don't think that is bad news, though--quite the contrary. It means lower prices and better software and hardware for all of us...
 
For me, crossfire has been a great addition. I got two 7950s about an year ago, for a combined $370 or so, with bunch of free games. Fortunately, the frame pacing issue was resolved by then (Unfortunately, the 99% second GPU bug had come in, which got fixed only recently). The game profiles one can set in CCC give enough freedom to have crossfire on or off individually or to change the default profile for that game. Everything mostly just works, and crossfire gives a substantial improvement at 2560x1440 @80Hz.

Right now, the only two major gripes I have with these drivers, are the propensity to crash in crossfire mode when videos are played in WMC (last stable driver 13.12 WHQL), and the locked pixel-clock rate of 333MHz for Dual-DVI links.
 
Is anyone else encountering a strange black screen hardlock issue with revision?

I'm running a fairly new Sapphire 290 Tri-X and several times a day, screen goes black without any warning and machine seems to hard lock in a few seconds after that.

No issues after rebooting and Windows ain't even yelling about a dirty shutdown. This never happens during gaming, only while sitting on desktop.
 
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFfffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu AMD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've had 2 atikmpag.sys related BSODs so far today. I think I might do a fresh OS install along with the latest drivers to see what happens. The 13.12s which worked fine before are also causing problems. I've tried running DDU in both safe mode and normal mode so see if it was some garbage left behind by other drivers causing problems. That hasn't worked either.
 
It's absolutely true at least in my case that those of us who don't have issues don't post. But i read these boards every single day.

One thing I've noticed in the last year is a measurable decline in posts in the Cat Drivers section. I use to sit down in the morning and have like 20 threads to read, now i have maybe 2 depending.

So i take one of two things away from that. Either the drivers "have" indeed gotten better so fewer of us are posting issues, or maybe Rage3d isn't getting the traffic it use to.

For me personally I've always stayed away from Xfire. While i have absolutely no numbers to back this up my feeling is over the years the majority of people posting issues have been xfire users. Everytime i read about an issue in this game or that i hesitate to install that driver set. Until i check the person's sig and see they are running xfire. Then i install and off i go!! :)

Void4ever
 
Hapatingjaky said:
Another useless AMD driver releases...

14.4
14.6 Beta
14.6 RC1
14.7 RC1
14.7 RC2
14.7 RC3

295x2 Microstutter in World of Warcraft and Diablo 3, unable to disable Crossfire due it being a dual GPU card and disabling Crossfire dosen't do anything. Again using a single 290x or a single 780, SLI 780 or TRI SLI 780 results in smoother gameplay. I've even gone as far as having the 295x2 replaced.... I'd even go as far to say that the performance is even worse then before, it felt much smoother on RC2 but even that wasn't bearable...

I am so glad I decided to go with AMD after all these years.... Even though the performance of the Nvidia 880 probably will be meh at 4K I bet it will still be smoother then this POS....

Anyone wanna buy a slightly used 295x2+290x lol?
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I was playing around with my 2 of the 3 new monitors with Diablo 3 and World of Warcraft and noticed massive stuttering also when going fullscreen. As if every X frame is lagging 0.5 sec behind or something.

This didn't happen in windowed mode but consistently in fullscreen mode with multiple gpus being used. In my case the stuttering when away when I disabled V-Sync.

Hope your case fixes it too.

Seems like AMD broke V-sync when gaming with above full HD resolutions or something. Though it seems mainly with those 2 Blizzard games, Metro 2033 Redux and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Lost Alpha DX10 mode didn't display that behaviour. :o
 
Why does Wolfenstein The New Order not work with Crossfire?

Another game I need to shelve until I can get my hardware to comply.
 
Ristogod said:
Why does Wolfenstein The New Order not work with Crossfire?

Another game I need to shelve until I can get my hardware to comply.
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Maybe same reason SLI doesn't do much good with it - streaming textures constantly now with 2 or more GPU video ram ties things up. This looks to be more of a game issue.

Now I play it max out, 1440P on a single 290x without any issues, not sure the need for X-Firing this title.
 
noko said:
Maybe same reason SLI doesn't do much good with it - streaming textures constantly now with 2 or more GPU video ram ties things up. This looks to be more of a game issue.

Now I play it max out, 1440P on a single 290x without any issues, not sure the need for X-Firing this title.
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this. crossfire/sli not a good idea with id tech, its an engine issue not a nvidia or amd issue.
 
I still get a lot of screen flickering and even corruption on all 3 screens in extended mode just in 2d running windows with all the RC's.....Only ones that are reasonably stable are the 14.4's WHQL's which are 4~5 months old...Heck there's even an updated driver in windows update that I have no clue what version it is.

Seems that AMD is spending too much time with mantle support on all the latest RC's and not enough keeping all the other parts of the driver for 2D, directX and OpenGL up to speed.
 
Scart said:
Is anyone else encountering a strange black screen hardlock issue with revision?

I'm running a fairly new Sapphire 290 Tri-X and several times a day, screen goes black without any warning and machine seems to hard lock in a few seconds after that.

No issues after rebooting and Windows ain't even yelling about a dirty shutdown. This never happens during gaming, only while sitting on desktop.
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Happens to me too, and sometimes I have screen flicker and all 3 screens for the first hour the system is on, or completely go black and/or show a rainbow pattern on all 3 displays...Only a hard reset fixes it.

Doesn't happen while gaming though.
 
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