14.9 WHQL Win 7/8 out; a step in the right direction?

Devil's advocate: Crysis 3 and Tomb Raider are some of the most graphically demanding games out there.

They actually are really well optimized. I can get darn near 100% usage out of all 3 cards on both those games. But yeah, I can see your point. Still though, they are very old single player games.
 
They actually are really well optimized. I can get darn near 100% usage out of all 3 cards on both those games. But yeah, I can see your point. Still though, they are very old single player games.
so is dx9 most all the dx9 games you complain about :hmm:

I thought wow went dx11 before I stopped playing 2 years ago
only mmo I've played lately for a short time was defiance and it was fine with cfx no crashes anyway not a lot of usage but most of the mmo's are like that on sli/cfx just not enough load

dumb mmo's need to drop dx9 with dx12 coming how much longer is anyone going to support it
 
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so is dx9 most all the dx9 games you complain about :hmm:

I thought wow went dx11 before I stopped playing 2 years ago
only mmo I've played lately for a short time was defiance and it was fine with cfx no crashes anyway not a lot of usage but most of the mmo's are like that on sli/cfx just not enough load

dumb mmo's need to drop dx9 with dx12 coming how much longer is anyone going to support it

WoW is still DX9 based. There is an optional DX11 mode that you can enable that bumps the graphics up a tick.
 
so is dx9 most all the dx9 games you complain about :hmm:

I thought wow went dx11 before I stopped playing 2 years ago
only mmo I've played lately for a short time was defiance and it was fine with cfx no crashes anyway not a lot of usage but most of the mmo's are like that on sli/cfx just not enough load

dumb mmo's need to drop dx9 with dx12 coming how much longer is anyone going to support it

Yeah I have no issues at all with DX11 games. It's not like I enjoy complaining. If things work, I don't complain. The games I have issues with are all dx9, and they aren't all old. Still can't play Divinity Original Sin in crossfire (will just artifact and eventually cash hard) for example. I really was looking forward to that game, and was enjoying what I could of it.I cant be bothered anymore, it's not worth the headache.

Besides, there are a ton of games that use DX9, and even though they are older the sheer numbers of them kind of makes correct support for dx9 a tad more important than 5 more fps in crysis or bioshock...

When I get out of this hotel.... I will re-install windows 8.1 for about the 100th time to see if something magically fixes itself on my end. I plan to install win8.1 update all my drivers/bios, install the latest amd driver and install some games. If that don't fix it, well I am out of ideas.
 
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◾Plants vs. Zombies (Direct3D performance improvements)
◾AMD Radeon R9 290X - 1920x1080 Ultra – improves up to 11%
◾AMD Radeon R9290X - 2560x1600 Ultra – improves up to 15%
◾AMD Radeon R9290X CrossFire configuration (3840x2160 Ultra) - 92% scaling

Seriously?:rolleyes:
 
What? :lol: Not really sure what you are saying at all. Maybe english isn't your native language I have no idea. Regardless, for years back on xp I use to use a driver sweeper anytime I installed a new driver as I am sure many people did or the thing wouldn't have existed. Then in about 2010 when I had my first Nvidia card since my 6800gt I noticed you didn't need to do all that stuff and just install the new drivers over top of the old ones. Being back on an ATI card now it would seem they recommend uninstalling all of the previous ati software and installing the new ones on a fresh slate. I assume you are trying to be a dick with your post but again I have no idea exactly what you are saying.

Not trying to be a "dick"...;) Heh...;) But you made a blanket statement that so happens not to be true--you aren't forced to "uninstall everything" to install new Catalysts. It's that simple--you can uninstall "everything" or not, your choice. I usually don't these days and have no problems. You can also use various extraneous 3rd-party "cleaners" if you want--but that's optional, too. I've experimented with a few myself out of curiosity, but overall I've don't get any benefit from them--so I don't use them as a matter of habit. Some people like "cleaners", other have had bad experiences with them, etc.

My own routine with the Catalysts (which 99% of the time works perfectly for me) is that I choose to install a beta right on top of a beta, but when installing a WHQL on top of a beta I'll uninstall "everything" first. AMD doesn't force me to do that--it's just my preference.

AFAIK, the *ideal* procedure for both nVidia and Ati is that you first uninstall "everything" and then you install the new drivers. But neither company forces you to do so, AFAIK. I put "everything" in quotes because you way you stated it promotes the appearance of a long drawn-out uninstall procedure requiring several stages, when in reality uninstalling everything with the Catalysts is merely a matter of selecting the "Express Uninstall" option with a single mouse click.
 
And how often do you check to make sure each part of the driver updated correctly? The drivers will work and still have older parts quite often, when you install on top of other drivers..
 
14.9's with the latest BF4 update = :drool: 1080p ultra and I'm pushing 170% resolution scale with a single 290x. Beeeeautiful!

But....was hopeful there'd be mantle support for Raptr/twitch.
 
Dude how old are Crysis 3 and Bioshock infinite? Absolutely zero people play those anymore and haven't in ages. Tomb Raider? Seriously it's been on sale for $5 for almost a year now it has no one playing it anymore.

I just don't understand why they waste valuable manpower and resources with that crap when the drivers have legitimate issues. Want to fix something, then fix the problems, devote manpower to stability. Devote manpower to making installs and uninstalls dead simple and flawless. Devote manpower to making sure your drivers work with stuff people use, i.e Afterburner, TRIXX, CRU etc.. Devote manpower to making Eyefinity flawless. You get the pic, don't waste time on games no one but review sites care about anymore. If you have to fix games then pick ones people will continue to play. (WoW, other MMO's, Diablo, BF, COD, aka popular games that aren't already dead by the time you get a fix out for them).

To answer your question about DX9: DX9 games have a few issues. One is, in crossfire they will eventually start to artifact and then eventually crash so hard it requires a driver install. The other is texture corruption which requires using old DLL's in the respective folders to eliminate.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but Crysis 3 came out Feb 2013, Tomb Raider March 5th and Bioshock Infinite March 26th. Battlefield 4 came out October 29th. They're certainly not OLD and as mentioned, stress systems fairly hard. Not everyone plays games on release dates and some people wait till they're much less expensive before buying.

Here's a list of games that have been released or will be released this year. What games should they be working on?
 
Crysis 3 mp works great sp has it stupid cpu botleneck in some areas.
Bf4 is well optimized and works great it has problems in mp with netcode.
tomb raider hitman bioshock are all well optimized games i never had problems with does they reqire gpu power except bioshock. Now i am runing crossfire and still no problems all those games run great and now i can turn the settings to the max. Metro redux versions works great Far cry 3 works great.

Almost all games works great singlecard or crossfire on my rig. I am realy happy with the drivers and the crossfire support and how the games works realy nice.

The only problem i have is with ghost recon future soldier i love this game i play coop with my friends. This game has no crossfire profile. I know this game worked in crossfire like a charm in windows 7 lets say quite some time ago now i instaled windows 8.1 and new drivers no cf profile game is stubborn to run only on one GPU. I tried 14.4 14.7 14.8 14.9 drivers no one works.

Can someone confirm that this game has no cf support on windows 8.1 with the latest drivers.
 
Crysis 3 mp works great sp has it stupid cpu botleneck in some areas.
Bf4 is well optimized and works great it has problems in mp with netcode.
tomb raider hitman bioshock are all well optimized games i never had problems with does they reqire gpu power except bioshock. Now i am runing crossfire and still no problems all those games run great and now i can turn the settings to the max. Metro redux versions works great Far cry 3 works great.

Almost all games works great singlecard or crossfire on my rig. I am realy happy with the drivers and the crossfire support and how the games works realy nice.

The only problem i have is with ghost recon future soldier i love this game i play coop with my friends. This game has no crossfire profile. I know this game worked in crossfire like a charm in windows 7 lets say quite some time ago now i instaled windows 8.1 and new drivers no cf profile game is stubborn to run only on one GPU. I tried 14.4 14.7 14.8 14.9 drivers no one works.

Can someone confirm that this game has no cf support on windows 8.1 with the latest drivers.


You do realize that it may not be the drivers or AMD's fault, but could very well be the game's fault because the game does not support windows 8.1?

It's interesting how people instantly throw darts at AMD for their games not working, or because of glitches, problems, and expect AMD to fix it in the drivers, even though the actual problem is the game it's self.

A great example is Diablo III.. It use to support crossfire, use to work, last few patches it has only worked on 1 card, no crossfire. is that AMD's Fault? NOPE! Blizzard broke it, it's not AMD's responsibility to fix it.

To me it's like someone filling up their car with bad gas, then calling Ford, Chevy, or some other automobile manufacture and telling them to fix their damn engine, even though the problem is not cause by them.

Same thing happens here with games in some cases. IT isn't always AMD's or their drivers fault.
 
They should be working on games that don't work. Features that don't work. Profiles for games that don't have any.
 
AMD are working on games that don't work. AMD do not work on everything at once, there are priorities to balance vs. available resources. That's why Gaming Evolved exists, to improve the quality of the experience for users as early as possible. All companies prioritize, and all get criticized for the decisions they make. AMD are listening to feedback (see the report form, the video) to listen better and continue to improve.

I know that doesn't fix your issue or make you less mad, sorry.
 
AMD are working on games that don't work. AMD do not work on everything at once, there are priorities to balance vs. available resources. That's why Gaming Evolved exists, to improve the quality of the experience for users as early as possible. All companies prioritize, and all get criticized for the decisions they make. AMD are listening to feedback (see the report form, the video) to listen better and continue to improve.

I know that doesn't fix your issue or make you less mad, sorry.


It's all good jim. It's not personal. Just disappointed with these cards is all. You know how it is when what you buy doesn't work right or they way it should, its frustrating. For all I know, it might be I have a bad card causing me issues, wouldn't be unheard of as the first two I bought at launch were defective. Just didn't think the odds of 5 cards having 3 bad would be that high.
 
You do realize that it may not be the drivers or AMD's fault, but could very well be the game's fault because the game does not support windows 8.1?

It's interesting how people instantly throw darts at AMD for their games not working, or because of glitches, problems, and expect AMD to fix it in the drivers, even though the actual problem is the game it's self.

A great example is Diablo III.. It use to support crossfire, use to work, last few patches it has only worked on 1 card, no crossfire. is that AMD's Fault? NOPE! Blizzard broke it, it's not AMD's responsibility to fix it.

To me it's like someone filling up their car with bad gas, then calling Ford, Chevy, or some other automobile manufacture and telling them to fix their damn engine, even though the problem is not cause by them.

Same thing happens here with games in some cases. IT isn't always AMD's or their drivers fault.

I am sorry i did not realize that windows 8.1 could be the main issue i tought that crossfire profile works with the game engin no matter the windows enviroment specialy because win7 and win8 are so similar i was wrong.

t0adp1p3 Strange
For me ati cards worked very well in the past single card or crossfire. I have only one complain with the latest cards i posses hd 7950 it have ridiculous low TDP and i had to flash the bios because stock card was throttling like crazy in benchmarks and demanding games.
 
NEC monitors using SpectraView II software...

NEC monitors using SpectraView II software...

For those using an NEC monitor with SpectraView II software be aware these drivers break the software, at least under Windows 8.1. With these drivers installed, SpectraView no longer works and Windows will error out with a "SpectraView II has stopped working message".

I can duplicate this by completely removing the 14.9 drivers and SpectraView works; as soon as I install them, SpectraView stops working again. I've even uninstalled and reinstalled the SpectraView software, and this issue still persists.

For those that don't know, SpectraView is a monitor calibrating software specifically designed to work with certain NEC high end monitors. I've a PA242W 24 inch monitor.

Looks like I'll have to go back to the old 14.7 RC3 drivers which worked without issue.

Just FYI

Yes, I did submit a bug report.
 
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They actually are really well optimized. I can get darn near 100% usage out of all 3 cards on both those games. But yeah, I can see your point. Still though, they are very old single player games.

Very old?!! What the hell, if they are very old then Crysis 2 is ancient and HL 2 is prehistoric in that base, why do you think nobody plays them? Do you think all people only play games months newer like you, i still play old games and others do so as well and when i mean old i mean games with more of 10 years, i play a tonne of them i have a GoG account full of old games, for example i still play HL 1 and i want AMD to support it for as long as they can, that is the beauty of PC gaming we can play games with more than 10 years with modern GPU's just fine, being mad because AMD is supporting 1 year games is just crazy.
 
Very old?!! What the hell, if they are very old then Crysis 2 is ancient and HL 2 is prehistoric in that base, why do you think nobody plays them? Do you think all people only play games months newer like you, i still play old games and others do so as well and when i mean old i mean games with more of 10 years, i play a tonne of them i have a GoG account full of old games, for example i still play HL 1 and i want AMD to support it for as long as they can, that is the beauty of PC gaming we can play games with more than 10 years with modern GPU's just fine, being mad because AMD is supporting 1 year games is just crazy.

Guess you missed the post where he detailed the issues he had with older games while having cfx enabled.

He does not only play new titles.
 
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