Has anyone else cancelled their Win10 reservation?

Just found this a few moments ago... not 100% sure of the original source (it doesn't appear to be directly quoted in the thread where I found it), but it does look legit. Still doesn't really change my opinion, but I guess I'll loosen the tinfoil hat a bit-- at least for now. :sherlock: :lol:

When I upgrade a preinstalled (OEM) or retail version of Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 license to Windows 10, does that license remain OEM or become a retail license?
If you upgrade from a OEM or retail version of Windows 7 or Windows 8/8.1 to the free Windows 10 upgrade this summer, the license is consumed into it. Because the free upgrade is derived from the base qualifying license, Windows 10 will carry that licensing too.
If you upgrade from a retail version, it carries the rights of a retail version.
If you upgrade from a OEM version, it carries the rights of a OEM version.

Full version (Retail):
- Includes transfer rights to another computer.
- Doesn't require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
- Expensive
Upgrade version (Retail):
- Includes transfer rights to another computer.
- require a previous qualifying version of Windows.
- Expensive, but cheaper than full version

OEM :
OEM versions of Windows are identical to Full License Retail versions except for the following:
- OEM versions do not offer any free Microsoft direct support from Microsoft support personnel
- OEM licenses are tied to the very first computer you install and activate it on
- OEM versions allow all hardware upgrades except for an upgrade to a different model motherboard
- OEM versions cannot be used to directly upgrade from an older Windows operating system

What happens if I change my motherboard?
As it pertains to the OEM licenses this will invalidate the Windows 10 upgrade license because it will no longer have a previous base qualifying license which is required for the free upgrade. You will then have to purchase a full retail Windows 10 license. If the base qualifying license (Windows 7 or Windows 8.1) was a full retail version, then yes, you can transfer it.

From the end user license agreement:
15. UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for the software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from.
17. TRANSFER TO ANOTHER COMPUTER. a. Software Other than Windows Anytime Upgrade. You may transfer the software and install it on another computer for your use. That computer becomes the licensed computer. You may not do so to share this license between computers.


Source: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...y/0be532bc-99b5-4089-8c7d-5fb03192ae7f?auth=1

I'm using a full retail version of Win7 Ultimate, so this definitely skews in my favor if it's true. There's still the issue of not being able to revert back to Win7 after those first 30 days are up, though.
 
Meteor_of_War said:
Heck, I'm having Windows 10 issues and I'm still on Windows 7.:lol:

Yeah its not a big issue, just annoying. Not sure how big the update file is, but still to have it D/L and fail install every damn day is just stupid and I hate seeing it.

Hopefully tonight it will not rear its ugly face again.
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Just got home and booted up, and it's back.

They're going to piss me off into never installing 10.
 
Try what I did, rename the Software Distribution folder in the Windows directory to Software Distribution.old and delete it. It will create a new one (essentially cleaning it out) and re-download any currently available updates.

You may need to close Windows Update first.
 
Meteor_of_War said:
Try what I did, rename the Software Distribution folder in the Windows directory to Software Distribution.old and delete it. It will create a new one (essentially cleaning it out) and re-download any currently available updates.

You may need to close Windows Update first.
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Will do, thanks
 
Lazy8s said:
Just got home and booted up, and it's back.

They're going to piss me off into never installing 10.
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well wait till you boot up and it is successful :bleh:



I upgraded one system to 10 but going to wait till after the big bug update coming to do my other system

don't think mine can update itself as the reserved partition is to small

but I don't want to use my old win 7 & 8.1 boot drives much till it stops trying to update
 
Lazy8s said:
And that looping update issue. Did that get you too?
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No mine has been very stable. I'm almost afraid to say anything. :lol:

Just reading about all these mandatory stupid auto driver updates is ridiculous. That should never happen.
 
bittermann said:
No mine has been very stable. I'm almost afraid to say anything. :lol:

Just reading about all these mandatory stupid auto driver updates is ridiculous. That should never happen.
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I wouldn't say anything else, lest it crashes and you blame me for asking! :lol:

I'm almost grateful MSI hasn't released drivers for my laptop yet after all the issues I've read about.
 
bittermann said:
No mine has been very stable. I'm almost afraid to say anything. :lol:

Just reading about all these mandatory stupid auto driver updates is ridiculous. That should never happen.
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I'm fairly certain if you simply defer Windows updates, manually install the latest drivers for all your hardware (and keep them up to date), then turn back on Windows update it will not automatically install drivers. I did this so far with my GeForce driver, and onboard audio driver. Once I had them installed manually, they stopped showing in Windows update. Unless I am somehow wrong about this, been a little confusing.

The onboard audio kind of confused me at first because I initially didn't understand why it was making me install since I had onboard audio disabled in lieu of my soundcard. But it wanted to install the driver anyways.

Also should mention, that with updates deferred it is still installing security updates like Windows defender definitions.:up:
 
Meteor_of_War said:
I'm fairly certain if you simply defer Windows updates, manually install the latest drivers for all your hardware (and keep them up to date), then turn back on Windows update it will not automatically install drivers. I did this so far with my GeForce driver, and onboard audio driver. Once I had them installed manually, they stopped showing in Windows update.

The onboard audio kind of confused me at first because I initially didn't understand why it was making me install since I had onboard audio disabled in lieu of my soundcard. But it wanted to install the driver anyways.
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Oh yeah, I know how to get around it. Its just that I don't think MS thought this through as we are the minority that know how to get around this stuff. :)
 
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No doubt we should be able to change the way the updates are received.

I want the option to receive all critical security updates and updates for the Windows OS itself, but turn off all auto-driver updates.
 
I've decided to stay on win7 until I'm strong armed into upgrading by a good dx12 game or a win 10 exclusive.

Just can't be bothered changing something that works perfect. It's mostly out of laziness.:p
 
I had upgraded just my Dell Venue Pro 11 to Windows 10. Wanted to get a feel for it and play around and see what needed to be done. Seemed OK, but then all the security issues started to rear their ugly little heads. Did most of the fixes...then Tuesday came around and the cumulative update did such a bad job, that I had a black screen and had to remove the battery from the tablet...then restart. Black screen again for about four minutes....turned to blue and said "Windows is updating". Once I got back into Windows, I reverted to 8.1. Cancelled the upgrade on my Windows 7 laptop and my two i7 5820K desktops that I built myself. I don't want drivers being pushed on me and according to a few other forums, even though you disable driver updates...they still get pushed. I don't need this Big Brother stuff. Staying where I am for the time being.
 
bobmitch said:
I had upgraded just my Dell Venue Pro 11 to Windows 10. Wanted to get a feel for it and play around and see what needed to be done. Seemed OK, but then all the security issues started to rear their ugly little heads. Did most of the fixes...then Tuesday came around and the cumulative update did such a bad job, that I had a black screen and had to remove the battery from the tablet...then restart. Black screen again for about four minutes....turned to blue and said "Windows is updating". Once I got back into Windows, I reverted to 8.1. Cancelled the upgrade on my Windows 7 laptop and my two i7 5820K desktops that I built myself. I don't want drivers being pushed on me and according to a few other forums, even though you disable driver updates...they still get pushed. I don't need this Big Brother stuff. Staying where I am for the time being.
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A couple of posters here are having that issue. I think it crashed Andino a couple of times.

MSI hasn't released drivers for my laptop yet, but after all the issues others are having I've decided I'm perfectly content with 8.1. heh, I think I'd actually be afraid to move to 10 at this point.
 
bittermann said:
This article about Windows 10 constantly phoning home among other things makes me a bit irritated. Not so much the first two examples but the last one discussed in the article does.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/
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So if I'm reading that right, MS still siphons off info regardless of what's disabled?

Is it just me or does the ability to disable anything in 10 doesn't mean it's disabled, it just says it is? Between this and driver updates it seems to be just that.
 
Lazy8s said:
So if I'm reading that right, MS still siphons off info regardless of what's disabled?

Is it just me or does the ability to disable anything in 10 doesn't mean it's disabled, it just says it is? Between this and driver updates it seems to be just that.
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it's like putting a extra thermostat in a office building with no wire to it

makes them feel in control :hmm:
 
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