If you talking about NeHe then those tutorials are the worse source for learning, if you want to find out why then read the Redbook and you will see why NeHe's tutorials suck. Also another problem with your approach to learning is that people just copy&paste the code of some tutorial but they never know what they are doing and don't know why so times that stuff don't work. I think my point is that game/3D programming isn't easy at all, and that there is no easy way to learn game/3D programming unless you want to waste time doing a trial&error approach until the result you expected comes up.Oracle said:True but to get a decent grounding in opengl u'd be ok i mean look at some of the turorials on the net and ud see that