Upgraded my rig after all ...

Sounds like it's either your PSU or memory/infinity fabric OC. Try running your memory at default XMP 3200mhz/1600 IF.
 
Monitor the main power rails during heavy loads. If they are drooping more than 5%, that's bad news...
 
Seyiji said:
MSI B550M Bazooka < there's yer problem

MSI is trash

I had a MSI x570 Pro Carbon Wifi every bios update made it worse to the point i had to run 2666 mt/s memory in order to get it to stop random rebooting at random. Switched over to a Gigabyte x570 Aorus Ultra when I won the Newegg shuffle for mah 3080 and now i can run 3600 mt/s and things are stable.
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I have a MSI B450 Tomahawk. It's fine, I guess, but it takes an annoying long time to post. It basically just sits there for like 30 seconds on a black screen before the OS even starts booting. After that it's fine. Everyone seemed to recommend MSI. But I'm not sure if I'd bother with them again.

It's not terrible, but usually a motherboard is the sort of thing you buy and completely forget about. So this is the first time I've ever had a feeling either way about a motherboard. And it's disappointment.
 
demo said:
Sounds like it's either your PSU or memory/infinity fabric OC. Try running your memory at default XMP 3200mhz/1600 IF.
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I actually ran the memory at 2133 just to take it out of equation completly.Also i've done a memtest for 3 hours at this frequency.The games crashed with it too so the ... PSU

or GPU. :lol:
 
ugly said:
I have a MSI B450 Tomahawk. It's fine, I guess, but it takes an annoying long time to post. It basically just sits there for like 30 seconds on a black screen before the OS even starts booting. After that it's fine. Everyone seemed to recommend MSI. But I'm not sure if I'd bother with them again.

It's not terrible, but usually a motherboard is the sort of thing you buy and completely forget about. So this is the first time I've ever had a feeling either way about a motherboard. And it's disappointment.
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I had that booting lag with Asus B350 prime plus but it was corrected with a bios update at some point.With this MSI i have not this.Is ok.
 
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I'm no fan of Cyberpunk, but I don't think that's something a game software can really do.

If it is indeed the PSU, likely that it was failing regardless of what game you played. My thinking is its just that certain games expose the problem faster than others.
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This what i was thinking about.
 
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He talks about hard resets when the PSU cannot handle the load.... It behaves like my situation.Also with the new pc case i really used the two fans at full load.With the old i used to use open air.So the two fans added aditional load.
A 600watt power could handle the oced 10900k and 3080...It's intersting to see..He said things that i didn't consciously took into consideration.Anyway seems that 650w is enough for my rig.MY PSU is broken.Is not the wattage that wasn't enough in my case.
Seasonic wattage calculator recommends a 750watt gold power supply for my rig.
 
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600watt is not enough for a 10900K and 3080. That is absolutely not enough and most importantly, far, far out of the efficiency range. My 3080 pulls 450watt and my 10900K can pull up to 250watt in spikes. That's already 700watt over the 600watt the PSU is rated for. High rated/quality PSU might handle the spike, but it's way out of efficiency and would be an incredible strain on the PSU. People with 750watt PSUs were running into overcurrent protection issues with 3080s.. trust me 600watt is not enough.

I would get an 850watt Seasonic, Super Flower, or Corsair AX series for longevity and flexibility. Also, I highly doubt two fans changes anything. Fans typically pull 0.3-0.5amps each at full speed .. that's like 3-5watts lol.

You never want to be near the max load your PSU can handle. It may be fine when the PSU is brand new, but efficiency drops as it ages.

600watt is stupid for a 10900K + 3080. Please stop watching these YouTubers :(
 
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Nunz said:
600watt is stupid for a 10900K + 3080. Please stop watching these YouTubers :(
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Seconded.

For reference I had to replace my Corsair 850W after I got the 3080Ti as it was shutting down under load.

Seasonic 850W now doing the job.
 
acroig said:
Seconded.

For reference I had to replace my Corsair 850W after I got the 3080Ti as it was shutting down under load.

Seasonic 850W now doing the job.
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This is funny ... You had exactly my problem.It's not the wattage that was problem but the psu old or dying.You replaced an 850w with other 850w.
 
Nunz said:
600watt is not enough for a 10900K and 3080. That is absolutely not enough and most importantly, far, far out of the efficiency range. My 3080 pulls 450watt and my 10900K can pull up to 250watt in spikes. That's already 700watt over the 600watt the PSU is rated for. High rated/quality PSU might handle the spike, but it's way out of efficiency and would be an incredible strain on the PSU. People with 750watt PSUs were running into overcurrent protection issues with 3080s.. trust me 600watt is not enough.

I would get an 850watt Seasonic, Super Flower, or Corsair AX series for longevity and flexibility. Also, I highly doubt two fans changes anything. Fans typically pull 0.3-0.5amps each at full speed .. that's like 3-5watts lol.

You never want to be near the max load your PSU can handle. It may be fine when the PSU is brand new, but efficiency drops as it ages.

600watt is stupid for a 10900K + 3080. Please stop watching these YouTubers :(
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He said that if one already has an 600watt and want to upgrade..He demonstrates that it works and is stable but it is bordeline limit.He is not denying that.The point is one doesn't have to upgrade the 600watt PSU if he wants a 3080.
 
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He said that if one already has an 600watt and want to upgrade..He demonstrates that it works and is stable but it is bordeline limit.He is not denying that.The point is one doesn't have to upgrade the 600watt PSU if he wants a 3080.
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Yes he does have to upgrade if he doesn't want the PSU to kill itself in 6 months.
 
My PSU is dying and i don't think it did take the new cpu and mainboard.
I remembered that there was also another PSU that i killed with a 2900xt ... I had a thermaltake purepower Rx 450w.This was even more drastic.The psu didn't work anymore.It died completly.There were a few days until the warranty expired so they replaced it with a new Thermaltake TR2.. :P
 
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It's dying, and eventually it will die completely. I'd stop using the PC until you replace it .. it's only a matter of time, and PSUs tend to go out with a *bang*
 
Nunz said:
It's dying, and eventually it will die completely. I'd stop using the PC until you replace it .. it's only a matter of time, and PSUs tend to go out with a *bang*
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calm down ... At this moment I can't run any high end game anymore because the Pc hard resets anyway.I can do office and youtube.It can be used with that exclusively until it dies completly.
 
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