Radeon R9 Nano thread

[Progression]

Why is it a stupid card? You gave no reasons what so ever.

• It out performs a 980 at about the same cost
  
  [*]With similar power usage and noise level
  [*]Is smaller and can fit in many more types of cases SFF to big
  [*]Very easy to get an additional 10% performance out of it
  [*]Most likely will support DX12 better (to be seen)​

No it is just a stupid card

It is a stupid card from a strategic point of view for AMD. It accomplishes nothing for them. I could be very wrong, although I don't think I am.

 

[Gandalfthewhite]

it gives them a high end card in the SFF OEM PC market as well as the enthusiast SFF market. Something they did not have but Nvidia did with their SFF 970 (not the normal 970)

 

[Progression]

it gives them a high end card in the SFF OEM PC market as well as the enthusiast SFF market. Something they did not have but Nvidia did with their SFF 970 (not the normal 970)

Woops, I guess I haven't kept up with the times. I didn't read much on GPUs after I bought my 970 beyond speculation on when Pascal could come out.

Thanks, now the Nano makes much more sense to me.

 

[noko]

It is a stupid card from a strategic point of view for AMD. It accomplishes nothing for them. I could be very wrong, although I don't think I am.

Well you have a right to your opinion, I think it was a very prudent card but excessive on price initially. At $499 I wouldn't even look at a 980 and would probably laugh at the recommendation but that is me.

Probably some lessons learn though, at this price point $649, the buyer is probably most likely looking at sheer performance and not to much in size and has a rig that can handle virtually any size card to begin with. Plus those wanting top notch performance may not care to much on size of the case and to a certain extent power and noise is not as critical.

In other words the market for small powerful beast that sip on energy will need to be grown some. Look at it this way, I had no problem having a consistent 1000mhz clock speed from my Nano. Testing wise the same at 1055mhz but havn't really played extended gaming sessions at 1055mhz (same as a FuryX performance). Currently building custom case for this small Ice Volcano video card.

 

[Gandalfthewhite]

yeah I mean SFF tends to be a living room or LAN rig.

Also Nano gives AMD a push into the steam machine market.

 

[noko]

yeah I mean SFF tends to be a living room or LAN rig.

Also Nano gives AMD a push into the steam machine market.

Also will AMD make a Nano LE 150w? Same shaders as the Fury in other words. It is Hard for me to believe the yields are so good that AMD can make the Nano full Fiji chips with FuryX and X2(if ever released). Nano LE that performs at 980 or slightly below for $399. That would be rather hot and would make the 980/970 even more laughable. Except then AMD would be right in the 390x territory. 390x $349, 390 $269? If AMD goes too low they will end up restructuring/repricing their whole lineup.

 

[LordHawkwind]

Also will AMD make a Nano LE 150w? Same shaders as the Fury in other words. It is Hard for me to believe the yields are so good that AMD can make the Nano full Fiji chips with FuryX and X2(if ever released). Nano LE that performs at 980 or slightly below for $399. That would be rather hot and would make the 980/970 even more laughable. Except then AMD would be right in the 390x territory. 390x $349, 390 $269? If AMD goes too low they will end up restructuring/repricing their whole lineup.

This is all conjecture on my part but this is what I think:

- The 290/390 cards will soon become EOL.
- The high-end Polaris (11) will replace the Fury's and will become AMD's new high-end offering.
- They might offer a full Polaris with 8gb HBM2 to replace the Fury X and possibly an 8gb GDDR5x Polaris Pro to replace the Fury Pro/Nano.
- I think the high-end Polaris will be 35-40% faster than a Fury X and cost at least $800.
- The next card down would be about 15-20% faster than the Fury Pro and fill the old $649 price slot.
- The Fury X and Fury Pro will slip down to replace the 290/390's with a nice price drop. Remember the Fury's are packing HBM1 memory so could have reasonable longevity.

Obviously could be total BS but if this was to occur it would really give AMD a great offering at every price point at which they want to compete. I don't think AMD really want to compete at the low end anymore as there is no profit in it. I also think it would certainly get them back in the game!

 

[noko]

This is all conjecture on my part but this is what I think:

- The 290/390 cards will soon become EOL.
- The high-end Polaris (11) will replace the Fury's and will become AMD's new high-end offering.
- They might offer a full Polaris with 8gb HBM2 to replace the Fury X and possibly an 8gb GDDR5x Polaris Pro to replace the Fury Pro/Nano.
- I think the high-end Polaris will be 35-40% faster than a Fury X and cost at least $800.
- The next card down would be about 15-20% faster than the Fury Pro and fill the old $649 price slot.
- The Fury X and Fury Pro will slip down to replace the 290/390's with a nice price drop. Remember the Fury's are packing HBM1 memory so could have reasonable longevity.

Obviously could be total BS but if this was to occur it would really give AMD a great offering at every price point at which they want to compete. I don't think AMD really want to compete at the low end anymore as there is no profit in it. I also think it would certainly get them back in the game!

I think the Fury replacing the mid range cards is viable option except I do believe Pascal in those price ranges will destroy them even with DDR5(x). The question is when will AMD be ready and Nvidia? If AMD can release in June and Nvidia in December or after then I think that would work.

No word on the Fury X2 which makes me believe AMD will be releasing Polaris sooner than later.

 

[Megaman]

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/matthew-wilson/source-amd-to-cut-price-of-fury-gpu/

 

[noko]

Update on Nano project here:

• Custom case was designed and built around the Nano
• Design basically allows the Nano to get fresh cold air from a 120mm fan on bottom of case. This can be upsized to 140mm sized fan if needed.
• A StarTech.com PCI Express Riser Card x16 Left Slot Adapter for 1U/2U Servers was used to position the Nano for best airflow into it
• Case houses a water cooler for the cpu
• The case can be totally broken down relatively easy for full access to all components
• Since building it I may refine it further (rebuild a refined design particularly lower the height )
• As a note air flow goes from bottom to top and out back, a very open breathable design in other words which also the monitor sits on top of it to minimize desk/floor foot print
• Allows for significant OCing with good cooling and low to moderate noise, currently at 4.5ghz on the I5 6500, Nano runs cooler now then in the Silverstone case with lower fan speeds

This is the bottom showing the two fans, motherboard standoffs:

Showing the Nano

Footprint

Results for the SteamVR benchmark, look like it is good to go for VR if used

This is turning out better then I expected and was very fun to do. Now I have to figure out what I am going to do with yet another computer system.

 

[flopper]

Update on Nano project here:



This is turning out better then I expected and was very fun to do. Now I have to figure out what I am going to do with yet another computer system.

always fun with tech for some reason.
can give it away to aliens, nano nano

 

[noko]

always fun with tech for some reason.
can give it away to aliens, nano nano

lol, maybe aliens would find it useful.

Now an I5 6500 (non-K) when overclocked (Old Fashion Way with Base Clock) you are stuck at whatever frequency X Max Multiplier. In this case 4.5ghz all the time being over volted. What surprised me is on the desktop idle the whole system is taking 50w-55watts. Wow! Skylake is a true miser here.

To test the case thermal capacity I ran AiDa Stability test maxing both the GPU and CPU to 100% for 30 minutes, room temperature was 75F, these are the results:

CPU fan is AIO water cooler radiator - Yellow
Chasis fan is the AIO water cooler pump - Red
The two bottom fans are at 100% via power supply hook up not shown in graphs​

Temperatures
Note motherboard and M2 temperatures which to me are rather reasonable
CPU roughly equalized out at 60c at 100% load at 4.5ghz
The GPU did well too, with clock speed varying betwee 983mhz and 990mhz with a plus 35% powertune setting - the fan speed varied between 63% to 67% meaning it has more leg room
Sound wise the loudest component was the cpu cooler but it was not bad at all
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Here is image showing some of the AIO cpu water cooler:​

Now the power when both the gpu and cpu was at 100% was 358watts from the wall - both the cpu and gpu are mizers.

I also ran a 3dMark score which looks like it is the highest recorded for a I5 6500 and a Nano configuration 12729:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7714803

I am so excited about the results so far on the cooling that I will tear it all down and put it in a refined case . I want to make it lower and better cable management - everything else looks good.

 

[KAC]

The pricing is right to indulge in this card now. Better value than a 980 and also with a small waterblock could be a card that actually runs at 1000 MHz on load.

 

[flopper]

Now the power when both the gpu and cpu was at 100% was 358watts from the wall - both the cpu and gpu are mizers.

I also ran a 3dMark score which looks like it is the highest recorded for a I5 6500 and a Nano configuration 12729:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/7714803

I am so excited about the results so far on the cooling that I will tear it all down and put it in a refined case . I want to make it lower and better cable management - everything else looks good.

we are going to really small cases and hardware at last.
I forsee some interesting builds coming Polaris with HBm2 also