I Know this is an old thread, but...
I Know this is an old thread, but...
Hey, I know this is an old thread, but I'm wondering if i could get some input? I have once again given up all my free time to try various combinations of Catalyst & MMC to get something that both works with MCE 2005 and retains Ati's MMC functionality (unlike so Many... I really do prefer ATI's Interface; there are a few things like recording a whole series that i would like MCE 2005 for). I'm playing around with an ATI AIW X800 XL PCI-E alone at this point. (But i have three other AIW setups going as well and one Vista Ultimate system with TV wonder 650 Cards; so i'm not a new comer to these problems i'm facing but just looking for set up (configurations that people found to work well).
I started with Catalyst 6.3, & MMC 9.08. I was seeking a set up that wouldn't install the T200 drivers (as it is my belief/understanding that the T200 drivers don't work with versions MMC 9.08 and below). Catalyst 6.3, 6.2, & 5.7 all installed the T200 Drive on the Windows XP MCE 2005 SP3 system. (I was using a clean install of MCE 2005 SP3 - In the beginning).
[[[[In another system i'm running an ATI AIW 9800 Pro with XP SP3 and had have Catalyst 6.2 running, used the automated setup and in that system it automatically set up the WDM-NSP drivers.]]]
On the MCE 2005 setup; I even went back to Catalyst 5.7 and found the two different install folders (T200) & (NSP) but i no matter what I clicked I couldn't get it to install NSP drivers...(there's no SETUP file within that folder and I clicked on every icon in that folder trying to launch it's install). When I went back to the automated installer with seperate files (Catalyst, CCC, & WDM) or when I used the combined installer for those three (either way) it always installed the T200 WDM digital drivers on the MCE 2005 system. Is this NORMAL b/c of MCE's needs? BTW in between all these different installations and un-installs I used Driver Cleaner Pro to once in normal mode & a second time in Safe mode to clean out as much as I could.
I thought (from reading this thread) that people were able to install much older versions of Catalyst like 5.3 and get the NSP drivers to work with Catalyst????? So maybe I just need to go back to that time frame (a little farther back from Catalyst 5.7).
I've tried to scrounge and piece together as many versions of Catalyst & MMC that I can --- ATI has removed all of 2005 Catalyst 5.## drivers from it's website??? So it's what I have on the many AIW disks, what i managed to download back then & what I found on sites like Guru 3d & Tech Power Up (THANK YOU GUYS SOO MUCH!!!). BOO ATI!
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After not having much luck around the CATALYST 5.7 - 6.3 with these early drivers when I could get MCE to work (once i did get 9.08 to start (which maybe blows my T200 belief) but in several of these version several chs had static for sound and were only coming in on B&W often not being detected.... I wasn't sure if there was something wrong with my AIW's tuner? B/c of the B&W and static in both MMC & MCE 2005.
SO.... I decided to go modern and see if ATI had improved things with the newest (old MMC 9.16 drivers) and Catalyst 9.1 etc. So i installed Catalyst 9.1 DD's, CCC, WDM's and rebooted, then installed the UCI/DAO, the latest DVD/DTV Decoder Drivers, and then the Encoder Package --- on the second installation attempt with the same CATALYST and MMC 9.16 I tried things without the Encoder Package but MCE 2005 Failed to Detect the AIW x800 XL's Analog Tuner without it, so i installed it at the end that time and MCE 2005 Worked. However, with this setup it seemed like it was one or the other.
Once I got MMC 9.16 to work and the there was no static or B&W ch's anymore, BUT GHOD I hate that always on-ON DEMAND crap (what were they thinking?). I know it can be disabled in the registry except that several things make it re-enable itself such as switching inputs, & then coming back to TV Tuner input turns it back on.....and I get a kick that ATI's recommended registry setting doesn't work but I've found the correct one elsewhere. SO after setting up MMC 9.16 I then used the instructions to stop the ehRecvr process either this way or using Arc Coyotes script.
"Using the ATI MULTIMEDIA CENTER™ on Windows Media Center Edition
To use the ATI MULTIMEDIA CENTER™ on Microsoft's Windows Media Center Edition, follow these steps:
- Right-click on the Windows Taskbar and select Task Manager from the pop-up menu.
- Select Processes tab from Windows Task Manager
- Find and select ehRecvr process
- Click "End Process" button to terminate the process.
- Launch MMC TV application. Note: These steps are not needed to start the ATI MULTIMEDIA CENTER™ DTV feature."
However, i've never gotten them both to work. If I get MCE 2005 to work, then MMC 9.16 doesn't start or starts but no picture. If i get MMC then try MCE 2005... on some occasions starting one then breaks the other configuration...rebooting doesn't solve anything.
I've had to use in addition to the Add/Remove programs & DCPro i also had to use this GREAT TOOL... MANY TIMES. Without it once MCE 2005 was "broke" uninstalling & re-installing ATI's stuff even with a thorough cleaner didn't fix MCE 2005.
Media Center Reset Configuration tool.
http://www.salloway.org.uk/mediacenter/main.htm
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I'd like to find a couple of set-ups that work. I have the following cards that I'd like to get optimized. (I tried to get the HDTV Wonder going in Multiview with the AIW 9800 Pro using Catalyst 6.2 WDM-NSP drivers and MMC 9.08 but apparently it's not supported in that setup. I read one small line from back then that said (multiview with the HDTV wonder & an AIW card SHOULD be available in an upcoming update. (but IDK if that ever happened & if so what versions of Catalyst & MMC need to be used. I'm still trying to find the answers to that as well.
==AIW 9600XT (AGP) Catalyst 5.7 & MMC 9.03; XP Home SP2 corrupted
==AIW 9800 PRO (AGP)Catalyst 6.2 & MMC 9.08; XP Pro SP3 HDTV Wonder PCI (currently in the 9800 Pro machine but can be moved to enable multiview)
==AIW X800 XT (AGP) Catalyst 5.13 & MMC 9.08; XP Pro SP2
==AIW X800 XL (PCI-E) Catalyst 9.1 & MMC 9.16; MCE 2005 SP3
==TV Wonder Pro (PCI) (Not in a machine currently)
(I've got other MCE 2005 but right now that's the only system it's installed on).
i've got one other system running Vista Ultimate with TV Media 2008 Pack installed & XP Pro with TV wonder 650's installed for QAM tuning and analog cable. It works very nicely in most areas (the tv pack fixes somethings but changes some other things...but the QAM is the big deal so I'll have to live with the other problems. It was built to be a gaming rig so if I can off load the TV tuniner in some other systems & setups then that's why i want to get the older setups working with MCE 2005).
Thank you