Intel 12x00 series Alder lake

Yeh I think it'll be good, but just curious about all threaded performance in games and frame times with the speed disparity between cores. The slow cores actually look pretty fast anyway, on par with Skylake.

The i7 will probably be a good buy, you get 8 fast cores and 4 slow ones.
 
Yeah. I'm curious if they'll be overclockable like the big cores. I think it could work great if the Windows scheduler can dedicate Windows processes to the small cores, while the big 16 threads focus on the game. If they can make Windows differentiate between the two, and basically never touch the big cores for Window processes, that would really negate this huge core count push.

You don't need much processor power to drive Windows, so you could keep them low power and clocked low, and then use the extra thermal headroom to smash voltage through those big puppies.

Hopefully we see this work well, and then they can very easily expand the setup with more cores/threads. I would expect the HEDT platform to be a complete monster.
 
Nunz said:
If they can make Windows differentiate between the two, and basically never touch the big cores for Window processes, that would really negate this huge core count push.

You don't need much processor power to drive Windows, so you could keep them low power and clocked low, and then use the extra thermal headroom to smash voltage through those big puppies.
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Yes exactly, these will heavily rely on the scheduler. But from what I understand the 5950x & 5900x do anyway - so it doesn't simultaneously use cores from different modules in games, to avoid cross CCX communication slow down. IIRC it even has a game mode, disabling half the cores/modules because it's faster than having the full chip unlocked. Perhaps ADL will have a similar option.
 
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/a...zen-9-5950x-with-cinebench-r20-(bigtime).html

After seeing the cinebench table against my own 1700 i am thinking it's a good upgrade.It is the first platform that has double the ST performance versus mine.In this case is worth considering even with the slow DDR5.
Mine has ST score of 378
ADL 12900 has 810.

The intersting aspect is rumored to support ddr4 so i don't have to be early adopter for slow and expensive ddr5

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/alder-lake-multiple-gear-modes-confirmed
 
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KAC said:
You don’t pay any money. You are running a very old system. You only create threads to rile people up.
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hahahha :p:lol:
KAC look in the mirror and ask yourself about your upgrades behaviour patterns
We are opposites...
Maybe i will receive a 5900x for free from some people that upgrade for 5% or 10% more performance or not hitting 5ghz on all cores ... why not ? :D

On the serious note look at this:

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With GPU prices and the fact that Cyberpunk is unfinished game is stopping me from upgrading...
Also if you don't buy a 3080, 3080ti / 3090ti you can't use the added CPU performance anyway.In my case i am running in circles and not buying anything.
 
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badsykes said:
Playing on 1080p with games like Cyberpunk will be another solution.
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I'm actually least interested in this from a gaming standpoint. As it stands you're barely ever CPU limited on Ryzen 5000 anyway, or for that matter even a 9900K. But more throughput for video compression might be of some value to me.
 
Definitely buying Intel next time. Should be in 2 years so end of 2022 for me. Hopefully by that time new node refresh procs are out w/ DDR5 and crap.
 
Nagorak said:
I'm actually least interested in this from a gaming standpoint. As it stands you're barely ever CPU limited on Ryzen 5000 anyway, or for that matter even a 9900K. But more throughput for video compression might be of some value to me.
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You're just not gaming at a high enough refresh-rate.
 
Or playing CPU heavy games.

That said, I might skip a gen and wait for refresh/next gen.
 
Pricing seems a bit high, but AMD kind of set the price with the stupid pricing of the 5000 series, so I guess I can't be that annoyed.

Unless there's something crazy I don't know about, I will probably wait for the HEDT platform.
 
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