Sold my F-150 and bought a 2020 Civic Si. Not even kidding.
$97 to fill up, and that would last me a week. Getting ready to move and double driving distance in 2 months.
Filled up the Civic even with premium for $44, and get 60 more miles to a tank than the F150.
Not even the type R?![]()
Was looking at Tesla prices. Damn those things are expensive. Someone gimmie 125k for that Plaid.![]()
Nah, not yet at least. Maybe when the 2023 version comes out, but right now used car market is too nuts, cheapest one I could find was 41k, they are $37k new, so I'd hate to spend 4k over what it cost new, and it have 40k miles that I'm sure weren't easy.
Was looking at Tesla prices. Damn those things are expensive. Someone gimmie 125k for that Plaid.![]()
PG&E will pilot bidirectional electric car charging in California
Ford and General Motors are both working with PG&E on trials.
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/0...ll-begin-testing-ev-vehicle-to-grid-charging/
PG&E will pilot bidirectional electric car charging in California
Ford and General Motors are both working with PG&E on trials.
I really don't care much for the grid part of it. Just standardize a connector protocol so folk can start using their EV's as a whole house UPS. Let folk decide on their own if they want to play electric rate arbitrage; no need to involve the electric company. This will make America more resilient to grid hacking from abroad or grid blowup from within or just plain frozen grid like what happened to TX last year.
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/0...ll-begin-testing-ev-vehicle-to-grid-charging/
PG&E will pilot bidirectional electric car charging in California
Ford and General Motors are both working with PG&E on trials.
I really don't care much for the grid part of it. Just standardize a connector protocol so folk can start using their EV's as a whole house UPS. Let folk decide on their own if they want to play electric rate arbitrage; no need to involve the electric company. This will make America more resilient to grid hacking from abroad or grid blowup from within or just plain frozen grid like what happened to TX last year.
https://www.vox.com/recode/22969335/california-gm-electric-cars-power-grid-batteries-blackoutsCalifornia wants to use electric cars to back up the power grid
Just get the poor persons version, still plenty fast
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https://www.vox.com/recode/22969335/california-gm-electric-cars-power-grid-batteries-blackouts
so when PG&E turns off everyone's power when the wind blows they can suck your car dry to power someone else![]()
vehicle-to-home ability i want
but vehicle-to-grid .... nope
Which is why I said I didn't care for the grid part of it. There's already been issues letting them turn your thermostat a few degrees when people bought those smart thermostats (namely most folk got a one time benefit but that's it and it's been years since then so the electric company has more than made back the credit and then some).
The sooner we can array industry to agree on a standard bi-directional charger the sooner we can incorporate that into new building codes so at a minimum people can just buy the charger when they get an EV without also having to do a full blown electrical install. Just like I don't expect to have to put in a 240v for a dryer these days because all modern houses have one.
Fords bi-directional charger on the Lighting only comes with the Extended-Range Battery and cost 10,000 bucks for both
not counting the Smart Switch in your house and in my case 180 feet of 2 AWG copper wire at about 460 bucks as my power planal is on the other side of the house from the carport
plus 100 amp breakers and switches, electrical conduit and so on
then if you can't DIY it like i will .........
it's a big cost to add to every new house and lots of building materials with the shortages going on
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i need the Extended-Range Battery so i will pay it but wouldn't want APS here using it to backup Walmart in a outage![]()
Ford will let you draw 240v 100amp out and wouldn't you need to step that down for household use? I can't see how they would do anything more than a NG or propane external generator would output which usually uses the same kinda wire for dryer outlets.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a38552140/2022-ford-f-150-lightning-battery-specs-revealed/The upcoming electric pickup will offer two lithium-ion batteries: a 98.0-kWh Standard Range pack and a 131.0-kWh Extended Range pack.
As for the blame, a good deal of people would really do well to go through an old macro economics class again to learn the issues with supply and demand.