Apple Event 2018

Did my part in feeding the beast and playing sheeple - pre-ordered the max. Its going to be interesting going back to a bigger phone. Sometimes I pick up my wife's 7+ and Im like wtf this is so goddamn big.

Elysian said:
Why do people keep spending this crazy amount of money on these things? This is getting absurd. No phone is worth that much money.
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Prices are only going to go up. Samsung matched the 1k price point with the note 9s expect them to follow suite until they cant anymore.

As for buying a new phone every year...is it needed? Nah. But my phone is my most used device of all devices(computers, tablets, consoles and even more than my TV) so it doesnt make sense to cheap out on it to me. :shrug:
 
They're going to have to hit a point sooner or later where customers decide the ROI just isn't worth it any more.

That said I work with folks whose phone is their be all end all go to device, especially for work. They would be lost without it, so it makes sense to me for them to chase a better device if they can afford it. For someone like me that's 90% personal/play and 10% "other" I've already hit that point of no ROI.
 
logical said:
Did my part in feeding the beast and playing sheeple - pre-ordered the max. Its going to be interesting going back to a bigger phone. Sometimes I pick up my wife's 7+ and Im like wtf this is so goddamn big.



Prices are only going to go up. Samsung matched the 1k price point with the note 9s expect them to follow suite until they cant anymore.

As for buying a new phone every year...is it needed? Nah. But my phone is my most used device of all devices(computers, tablets, consoles and even more than my TV) so it doesnt make sense to cheap out on it to me. :shrug:
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I'll never spend more than $500 on a phone. That's what I spent on my Essential, and it's fantastic. The prices for Apple and Samsung and Pixel are just ridiculous. I spent more than that on my 6s+, but I was also able to sell it for $300 or so when I was done with it. Phones shouldn't cost as much as a nice Surface Pro.
 
Lazy8s said:
They're going to have to hit a point sooner or later where customers decide the ROI just isn't worth it any more.

That said I work with folks whose phone is their be all end all go to device, especially for work. They would be lost without it, so it makes sense to me for them to chase a better device if they can afford it. For someone like me that's 90% personal/play and 10% "other" I've already hit that point of no ROI.
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I think we are going to be hitting that ceiling soon. Probably on the next iteration of apple phones.

Elysian said:
I'll never spend more than $500 on a phone. That's what I spent on my Essential, and it's fantastic. The prices for Apple and Samsung and Pixel are just ridiculous. I spent more than that on my 6s+, but I was also able to sell it for $300 or so when I was done with it. Phones shouldn't cost as much as a nice Surface Pro.
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Thats great and all but people will buy it no matter what which will keep the prices high as hell. Im part of the problem.

Sometimes I wonder if Apple would make more money if they sold volume versus high price. Make the phone say 500-600 bucks and have5-6 buy the phone instead of 1-2.

I also think part of the allure with shiny new phones is social status too. As vain as it sounds people look at that stuff the same way people look at you when you pull up with a nice/ugly car.
 
logical said:
I think we are going to be hitting that ceiling soon. Probably on the next iteration of apple phones.



Thats great and all but people will buy it no matter what which will keep the prices high as hell. Im part of the problem.

Sometimes I wonder if Apple would make more money if they sold volume versus high price. Make the phone say 500-600 bucks and have5-6 buy the phone instead of 1-2.

I also think part of the allure with shiny new phones is social status too. As vain as it sounds people look at that stuff the same way people look at you when you pull up with a nice/ugly car.
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People will always do things until they won't. There will be a breaking point if this upward trajectory continues. Their sales have been trending down since 2015 according to that link Lazy8s posted.
 
Elysian said:
People will always do things until they won't. There will be a breaking point if this upward trajectory continues. Their sales have been trending down since 2015 according to that link Lazy8s posted.
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For sure, I think we are just about there as noted above.

What a world we live in where 20 million units sold is described as a failure. :lol:
 
logical said:
For sure, I think we are just about there as noted above.

What a world we live in where 20 million units sold is described as a failure. :lol:
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Yeah it's crazy lol. Well, I hope buyers get more for the money this time around than last. Everyone I know who got an X expressed a bit of disappointment that for the most part, not much had changed other than the form factor.

I don't know what the most requested features are among the user base, but it would be nice to see something unexpected from Apple.
 
Lazy8s said:
Yeah it's crazy lol. Well, I hope buyers get more for the money this time around than last. Everyone I know who got an X expressed a bit of disappointment that for the most part, not much had changed other than the form factor.

I don't know what the most requested features are among the user base, but it would be nice to see something unexpected from Apple.
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The X was a huge change for the iPhone. They took away the iconic home button, added FaceID, and for the first time put in OLED in an iPhone on top of all the little things they always polish up.

I felt like the X that I have now is probably the most problematic of all iPhones I have ever had. It feels like the software just doesnt have to polish that iPhones usually do. Its just the little things that add up.

This new max will be the same exact thing just a bigger screen. Anyone buying this phone should know its just an S version so theres really no new game changing features.

I think the sweet spot is that iPhone XR that comes in new colors it basically has all the features of the XS phone minus the double camera and OLED for like 300-400 bucks cheaper. That phone will probably be the money make for apple this generation.
 
logical said:
The X was a huge change for the iPhone. They took away the iconic home button, added FaceID, and for the first time put in OLED in an iPhone on top of all the little things they always polish up.

I felt like the X that I have now is probably the most problematic of all iPhones I have ever had. It feels like the software just doesnt have to polish that iPhones usually do. Its just the little things that add up.

This new max will be the same exact thing just a bigger screen. Anyone buying this phone should know its just an S version so theres really no new game changing features.

I think the sweet spot is that iPhone XR that comes in new colors it basically has all the features of the XS phone minus the double camera and OLED for like 300-400 bucks cheaper. That phone will probably be the money make for apple this generation.
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I should have clarified it's the OS I was referring to. The physical changes were way overdue. Little things like linking apps that are commonly used in multi tasking and creating an icon for that, among others would be nice...

On the XR, my wife's 6s (trusty little beast) is starting to fail and I may grab that XR for her.
 
Elysian said:
Why do people keep spending this crazy amount of money on these things? This is getting absurd. No phone is worth that much money.
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Elysian said:
I'll never spend more than $500 on a phone. That's what I spent on my Essential, and it's fantastic. The prices for Apple and Samsung and Pixel are just ridiculous. I spent more than that on my 6s+, but I was also able to sell it for $300 or so when I was done with it. Phones shouldn't cost as much as a nice Surface Pro.
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I bought a swiss army knife of phones. I'm not proud of spending $1360 on a phone, but I think I got my money's worth. The phone does give me a PC like an experience and lots of conveniences. Everything I do on my PC I now do on my phone.
I very much would like a Surface pro, but due to lifestyle changes, it doesn't sense for me to use one. I think it's the same for many people.

logical said:
The X was a huge change for the iPhone. They took away the iconic home button, added FaceID, and for the first time put in OLED in an iPhone on top of all the little things they always polish up.

I felt like the X that I have now is probably the most problematic of all iPhones I have ever had. It feels like the software just doesnt have to polish that iPhones usually do. Its just the little things that add up.

This new max will be the same exact thing just a bigger screen. Anyone buying this phone should know its just an S version so theres really no new game changing features.
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You don't think the Neural learning stuff is gaming changing? The chip sounds like a big upgrade.
 
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I bought a swiss army knife of phones. I'm not proud of spending $1360 on a phone, but I think I got my money's worth. The phone does give me a PC like an experience and lots of conveniences. Everything I do on my PC I now do on my phone.
I very much would like a Surface pro, but due to lifestyle changes, it doesn't sense for me to use one. I think it's the same for many people.



You don't think the Neural learning stuff is gaming changing? The chip sounds like a big upgrade.
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That remains to be seen for me personally. The X has it already it learns things that you do and the way you type(text suggestions) but its nothing ground breaking that I couldnt live without. If it becomes more useful in the XS could be a game changer but as of right now not really. They are opening it up for devs to take advantage of but whether or not devs use it in a meaningful way remains to be seen.
 
logical said:
That remains to be seen for me personally. The X has it already it learns things that you do and the way you type(text suggestions) but its nothing ground breaking that I couldnt live without. If it becomes more useful in the XS could be a game changer but as of right now not really. They are opening it up for devs to take advantage of but whether or not devs use it in a meaningful way remains to be seen.
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They're using machine learning to enhance your photography. I'm not sure if that's cloud based or not. It wouldn't change the way you use your phone but it does improve things you do on it. If you take that much photo in your life.

You'll appreciate the improvement on phone a lot more If you live in China. Apple emphasizes the phone AR capabilities. AR and VR is huge in China. So I've been told.:bleh:
 
They put a whole show on how they are doing this and that in the background while taking photos but the end result will only be marginally better than an iPX in reality.

As far as AR goes, I have never been to china and I dont know what they do there with AR but I havent used AR in any meaningful way at all on my phone. I tried some terrible games and some apps that use it to show landscapes of places you been but nothing worth it. I dont know why Apple is pushing AR so hard cause I have yet to see it be useful anywhere in my own life.
 
Tell you one thing guys - I do miss my Apple watch. I just reset my Samsung gear again as it was almost unusable after the last update. I want an Apple watch back - but I won't buy another Apple phone.

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Apple ups service pricing

Apple ups service pricing

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordon...upgrade-release-date-price-cost/#6fedbe317f26

This week Apple AAPL -1.18% launched its new iPhones to much fanfare and looking closely at the iPhone XS (details), iPhone XS Max (details) and particularly the iPhone XR, this is deserved. That said, Apple also made a second, quieter announcement shortly after the launch and it will be greeted with a lot less enthusiasm…
What Apple announced was its updated Service Pricing to cover the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max, and the user response has been hostile. While the iPhone XS retains the same extortionate costs for screen repair ($279) and “Other damage” ($549) as the iPhone X, these have been pushed up to an astonishing $329 and $599 respectively for the iPhone XS Max.
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logical said:
They put a whole show on how they are doing this and that in the background while taking photos but the end result will only be marginally better than an iPX in reality.

As far as AR goes, I have never been to china and I dont know what they do there with AR but I havent used AR in any meaningful way at all on my phone. I tried some terrible games and some apps that use it to show landscapes of places you been but nothing worth it. I dont know why Apple is pushing AR so hard cause I have yet to see it be useful anywhere in my own life.
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that's the problem, you don't find it useful anywhere in your life (like me).

Apple's solution is to MAKE it your problem, because, that's the apple way. :p
 
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