Any thoughts on Firefox Quantum?

Curious; how does one quantify whether a browser is 'faster'?
I suspect 99% of us are limited by their Internet connections for it to make much of a difference.

I just go with the flow and use the browser which won't ever run into compatibility issues (Chrome).
All extensions are bloat and Adblock is all most people really need.

Used to be a time when Opera was really good, but even that had compatibility issues.
 
saumilsingh said:
Curious; how does one quantify whether a browser is 'faster'?
I suspect 99% of us are limited by their Internet connections for it to make much of a difference.

I just go with the flow and use the browser which won't ever run into compatibility issues (Chrome).
All extensions are bloat and Adblock is all most people really need.

Used to be a time when Opera was really good, but even that had compatibility issues.
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By faster we mean how responsive a browser is, mainly in regards to rendering web pages. What makes you think your download speed is a bottleneck of browser performance? :D
 
globalist said:
By faster we mean how responsive a browser is, mainly in regards to rendering web pages. What makes you think your download speed is a bottleneck of browser performance? :D
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How often do you find that rendering speed is an issue on a page?

Usually the what I find slowing down my browsing is lazy loading implemented by the website. Usually it's images, or portions of a long article that don't load until you scroll to the bottom of the page. That's not really on the browser.

Then the big one is ads. You're making a bunch of different connections to a bunch of different sources. One ends up hanging for a while and you're page is stuck for a while. That's just the nature of the business side of the internet, and the only real remedy is ad blockers.

I find what actually makes a difference in browsing speed is the feature that the browser has. I find when I use Firefox, it just doesn't feel right. The first option is usually not the one that I want to use for my browsing habits. Or features like mouse gestures in Vivaldi make browsing infinitely faster compared to a few milliseconds of rendering speed.
 
Quantum is almost ok, but the lack of proper session saving/restoring just means I can't trust it. I need proper session saving/restoring and currently, Quantum doesn't provide this. It is pretty much crap in that regard, even though addon authors really do try to make it work. It is the Firefox team that active work against addons being able to do this, yet the team wont work a proper session saving system into the browser themselves. What gives?
 
Galmok said:
Quantum is almost ok, but the lack of proper session saving/restoring just means I can't trust it. I need proper session saving/restoring and currently, Quantum doesn't provide this. It is pretty much crap in that regard, even though addon authors really do try to make it work. It is the Firefox team that active work against addons being able to do this, yet the team wont work a proper session saving system into the browser themselves. What gives?
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But Firefox does save your sessions, and can restore them too. What is it missing?
 
globalist said:
By faster we mean how responsive a browser is, mainly in regards to rendering web pages. What makes you think your download speed is a bottleneck of browser performance? :D
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Browser responsiveness is almost never an issue.
Unless I am viewing a page that keeps loading image after image depending on how much you scroll down, but that's just bad page design.


Another factor is back & forward navigation.
Old Opera used to load back/forward pages from memory instead of doing a split-second re-check from source which made navigating back/forward instantaneous.

This is not the case anymore in any browser, so they all feel more or less equally sluggish to me.
And so the only real contender is Internet speeds, either yours or the server's.
 
metroidfox said:
But Firefox does save your sessions, and can restore them too. What is it missing?
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I need to have more than 1 session. Often, after having boot the pc, programs get updated and open pages, which forces FF to load, often not restoring the session. I manually restore the session, but sometimes I forget before rebooting. Boom! Session lost.

FF only ever keeps 1 session, and that is the last session. And sometimes it is even corrupt due to the poor memory management FF has. Again, session lost.

But people are trying to convince FF team to re-implement a session handling system in Firefox as it currently is missing. FF is simply to risky to use.
 
wabbitslayer said:
Here's a thought:

IT ****ING SUCKS.

screwed up some of my favorite add-ons (including classic theme restorer), can't adjust the size of the toolbar buttons (AFAIK), had to declutter the empty tab page of all the **** they put on it (and what's left is tiny)....

if I wanted to use Chrome, I would have just switched to Chrome.

:mad::mad::mad:
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I just wanted to quote this to reflect my feelings have not changed. It decided a few days ago to stop loading websites at random, screw up the display of others, and then today it won't show embedded youtube vids. Reinstalls, repairs, doing what is suggested on mozilla forums....none work.


deadite_9 said:
Have you tried Waterfox? For all intents and purposes, it's the same old Firefox you used to have. I know for a fact that CTR is still compatible with it.

Waterfox is still my default (simply not a fan of Chrome), but so far I've been digging the new Firefox.
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I have not, but only because I haven't been back to this thread. Will try it out here in a minute....Thanks!
 
And now Firefox Quantum has decided that instead of delayed loading of tabs, it now insists of loading all my 600+ tabs at the same time. This means Firefox crashes loading my session and there doesn't seem to be a way to disable to forced loading of all tabs. Firefox Quantum has with this move lost all its usefulness for me. Too bad as it was the only browser able to handle this many tabs, but it has gone the Chrome way...

Edit: It reaches 30GB before it crashes. Such a ridiculous piece of software. And they even advertise that handling 1000 tabs is no problem.
 
Galmok said:
And now Firefox Quantum has decided that instead of delayed loading of tabs, it now insists of loading all my 600+ tabs at the same time. This means Firefox crashes loading my session and there doesn't seem to be a way to disable to forced loading of all tabs. Firefox Quantum has with this move lost all its usefulness for me. Too bad as it was the only browser able to handle this many tabs, but it has gone the Chrome way...

Edit: It reaches 30GB before it crashes. Such a ridiculous piece of software. And they even advertise that handling 1000 tabs is no problem.
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Something seems like it's really wrong with your install. :hmm: Firefox 58 still defers tab loading on session restore on all my systems.

EDIT: go to about:config and check the values of browser.sessionstore.restore_tabs_lazily, browser.sessionstore.restore_on_demand

EDIT2: I don't want to know why you have 600 tabs pending. I hope you're trolling.
 
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I'm still enjoying it problem free thankfully. Then again I'm only loading 2-6 tabs at a time.... :bleh:
 
I am not the only person that has many tabs in Firefox. And many more actually need proper session management. Firefox had it all until v58 and above. Now it severely lacks features, given up in the name of performance.
 
Galmok said:
I am not the only person that has many tabs in Firefox. And many more actually need proper session management. Firefox had it all until v58 and above. Now it severely lacks features, given up in the name of performance.
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I was wondering why firefox was crashing all of a sudden. I have 300+ tab on. It really doesn't seem like 300 tabs.:bleh2:
 
deadite_9 said:
Have you tried Waterfox? For all intents and purposes, it's the same old Firefox you used to have. I know for a fact that CTR is still compatible with it.
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I finally got around to installing it and trying it this morning.

THIS is the browser that I have been missing :heart:
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wabbitslayer said:
I finally got around to installing it and trying it this morning.

THIS is the browser that I have been missing :heart:
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:up:

I miss the customization options, but for the most part I still like the new Firefox. I'm hoping Waterfox is able to maintain its niche and thrive for when I inevitably need to go back to it, though. ;)
 
Seems like quoting on Rage3D is broken in FireFox 60.0. You can create a new post, but if try to quote an existing one by hitting the Quote button, the quoted text doesn't appear and the edit box won't accept input.

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Back to Chrome I go. Or maybe I'll give Edge a try.
 
Munkus said:
Seems like quoting on Rage3D is broken in FireFox 60.0. You can create a new post, but if try to quote an existing one by hitting the Quote button, the quoted text doesn't appear and the edit box won't accept input.

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Back to Chrome I go. Or maybe I'll give Edge a try.
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It seems to be working fine for me. The update just installed on my work lappy and the quotes seem to be working....An add on giving trouble maybe??

edit: Edit seems ok too...
 
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