bittermann
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Want to tell MS where to put it...install Win 10 and use the feedback central app! 
Awesome Job Microsoft
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deadite_9
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Yeah, that'd show 'em, wouldn't it?Want to tell MS where to put it...install Win 10 and use the feedback central app!
Too bad that also breaks rule #1 on the Win10 machine that I already have... no "apps." I avoid them like the plague that they are (or at least as much as I can, within reason).
Gotcha - and yes, I completely agree.
0091/2
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The forced update is really intrusive. I have a Flash update for edge I didn't want because I had Flash disabled. It will nag you a few time then it would take over the screen giving you one option to click. I don't even know if have the option let save your work once you click it. Any how I killed the process to gain access to my screen again.
deadite_9
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The forced update is really intrusive. I have a Flash update for edge I didn't want because I had Flash disabled. It will nag you a few time then it would take over the screen giving you one option to click. I don't even know if have the option let save your work once you click it. Any how I killed the process to gain access to my screen again.
I have WU disabled via gpedit, and I use the "Show/Hide" troubleshooter to check for updates every few days. That way I can still selectively choose what I do/don't want to install. But I fully expect that MS will break that workaround soon enough.
Samuraicow
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deadite_9
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Thanks deadite_9, didn't know about this part
Works great for getting rid of the icon, even if it doesn't do crap for getting rid of the stupid GWX application. Of course, I'd much rather be given a choice whether or not it even runs, but they don't seem to be inclined to let people refuse their generous offer.
bittermann
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The problem is it's a changing target courtesy of MS, that's why no fix is permanent.
deadite_9
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Actually, the closest thing to a permanent fix involves vetting all non-security updates before allowing them to be installed. And to do that, you have to disable WU and scour the internet every time an update is released-- or at least every Patch Tuesday. Otherwise, you let a third-party tool do the after-party cleanup... or you do it yourself. None of those scenarios is particularly appealing, but that's exactly what your choices are nowadays if you want to stand up to the incessant bullying from Microsoft.
Sorry... can you tell it gets under my skin?
daPhoenix
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Windows 7 support goes as far as 2020 and Windows 8.1 to 2023 so they're hardly "deprecated" - hell even Vista still gets patched so they're hardly deprecated.
deadite_9
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Vista has less than a year left, though. And software is dropping support for it left and right (Chrome is probably the most notable one). I have my nephews on an old Vista machine at the moment, and I'm gonna need to upgrade them. Win10 is the only viable alternative-- buying Win7 or 8.1 right now just doesn't make any sense-- but I still hate to do it to them.
t3hl33td4rg0n
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Vista has less than a year left, though. And software is dropping support for it left and right (Chrome is probably the most notable one). I have my nephews on an old Vista machine at the moment, and I'm gonna need to upgrade them. Win10 is the only viable alternative-- buying Win7 or 8.1 right now just doesn't make any sense-- but I still hate to do it to them.
Take advantage of the cheap Windows 7 OEM license and do the free upgrade.
Skynet
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Has nothing to do with being dumb and everything to do with MS trying to force people into an OS they may or may not want. Example, on some systems Windows 10 starts the install process then fails because the hardware is not compliant. At some later point it will try again. And again.
This it downright idiocy on the part of MS.
deadite_9
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You can sometimes find it for around $80 or so, but generally speaking... the OEM version of Win7 Home edition retails for the same price as the full version of Win10 Home. Plus, the upgrade would retain the same license as the Win7 install (i.e., it's supposed to be tied to the existing hardware only).
That seems like a net loss to me. If I've got to subject them to Win10, it might as well be a full retail version that I can move to another PC if needed.
Ford Freak
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As someone that works in a computer repair shop, it is quite common for someone to come in saying stuff doesn't work right after installing 10. Even some systems that are 2 to 3 years old have problems. Desktops usually aren't as bad. The problem with garbage OEM systems is that they only make drivers for 1 to 2 years. Good luck getting updated drivers after that. One person was traveling and had his laptop connected through his phone for internet access. He kept getting notified that his data usage was about to go above his plan limit. The laptop downloaded 10 and started installing it.
For updates, I've always chose to manually download and install them. It will check for updates but not download them. One update that I keep skipping and hiding is KB3035583. That seems to be the main POS update that keeps nagging users about 10. That's the only one I keep skipping and I haven't had problems.
Only one employee at the shop keeps asking if people want to upgrade and tries to sell it to them as if it's the holy grail. Most say yes even if they has a low end or old system. I don't say anything unless they ask me. I tell them yes if they have 8 or 8.1 and there are drivers that work.
I've got to say is MS keeps going down this path with garbage metro and trying to force changes, I'm done with them. I don't video game as much as I did 10 years ago so it isn't that big of a deal if I hop over to the Linux camp. I already have one system with Mint on it.
For updates, I've always chose to manually download and install them. It will check for updates but not download them. One update that I keep skipping and hiding is KB3035583. That seems to be the main POS update that keeps nagging users about 10. That's the only one I keep skipping and I haven't had problems.
Only one employee at the shop keeps asking if people want to upgrade and tries to sell it to them as if it's the holy grail. Most say yes even if they has a low end or old system. I don't say anything unless they ask me. I tell them yes if they have 8 or 8.1 and there are drivers that work.
I've got to say is MS keeps going down this path with garbage metro and trying to force changes, I'm done with them. I don't video game as much as I did 10 years ago so it isn't that big of a deal if I hop over to the Linux camp. I already have one system with Mint on it.
deadite_9
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A bit of a warning/update regarding my previous instructions...
Apparently, performing the first step by enabling the group policy, but neglecting to add the registry key to suppress the GWX application can still result in the user being prompted to install the upgrade.
In fact, you'll even be prompted with a 15-minute countdown that confirms you're about to be upgraded. But nothing will happen when the timer ends and the upgrade "begins to prepare." Clicking on the button to "Restart and Upgrade" just opens up Windows Update and displays whatever's currently available (or at least everything that isn't Win10).
The upgrade window appears to just hang and will sit there indefinitely after the initial HDD activity dies down. No errors, no restarts, no Win10.
So the first step does appear to effectively kill the upgrade. But it looks like the GWX app still operates independently and will attempt to drag you to Win10, whether you want it or not.
The group policy may be enough to protect you, but the timer that pops up is enough to give you a heart attack if you're looking to avoid the upgrade.
