Viper Radeon HD3870 512M GDDR4 VIVO with MMC

[kataflok]

I've been trying to install this for a week now with no luck.

I'm running a clean SP3 install of XPPro on a new intel quad core system with the bare board drivers and .net version 2.0. Everything is new and minimalist.

I can install the primary full version of Diamond's: HD_3000_XP_VER_DMM4-0 driver or ATI's 8-12_xp32_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_72271 driver and the display drivers work fine.

The video out via S-Video cable to TV works properly as well.

However, neither Windows Media Encoder or Windows Movie Maker can see any video input -- they can't see that a capture source is even present.

I can install all subsequent codexs:

8-12_xp32-64_xcode_72274(AVIVO Driver Package)
8-12_xp32-64_hdmiaudio_72274 (Audio Driver)

Even after the following there is no capture source seen.

I can also install the following:

9-14_mmc_uci
6-12_xcode_38463

Then I try to install the MMC core:

9-16_mmc_enu

Essentially, the install begins -- and then it just quits. (Every version I have tried has done the same.)

The store claimed I could use this to import S Video. The documentation claims it can act as a video capture device.

Can anyone out there tell me what I need to do to get the video in and MMC (Or some alternative) working?

 

[moshpit]

I know 3870's can do S-Video out, but I didn't know they were VIVO cards. I haven't seen a VIVO radeon that wasn't a AIW since the original Radeon 64mb VIVO card way back when. While the store may have made silly promises to you, have you in any way confirmed that they were telling you the truth by finding said support mentioned on the manufacturer's web site? Does Diamond mention that card is VIVO anywhere on it's site?

 

[caveman-jim]

It's listed as VIVO here (I think this is the right card).

Look in device manager to see if the ATI Unified AVStream driver is installed, under Sound, Video and Game controllers.

Make sure you have installed the latest intel chipset drivers.

 

[Jokerzwild]

I know 3870's can do S-Video out, but I didn't know they were VIVO cards. I haven't seen a VIVO radeon that wasn't a AIW since the original Radeon 64mb VIVO card way back when. While the store may have made silly promises to you, have you in any way confirmed that they were telling you the truth by finding said support mentioned on the manufacturer's web site? Does Diamond mention that card is VIVO anywhere on it's site?

Both my X1800XT and X1900XT had VIVO, and remember the X800Pro VIVO's everyone was unlocking into XT's? I was shocked that my 4850 didn't have it .

 

[caveman-jim]

I was surprised they kept it for so long, it really seemed a niche feature. With the DTV transition, a VIVO card could suddenly have a new lease of life with a digital converter box and a S-Video or RCA component hook up.

 

[simul8guy]

I've had the same problem trying to install MMC software on a new build with an AIW 1800XL (see my separate post). According to AMD/ATI tech support MMC will not work on XP with SP3 installed... interesting.... and I also can't get the card to provide capture input to 3rd party software (Adobe Premiere, Nero 7, etc.). Tech support says I have to roll back to SP2 if I want MMC to work. ATI has essentially abandoned support for the AIW cards since they don't work with Vista (well they do work as a video card, just not all of the other features we bought the card for)... nice, huh?

 

[alipik]

it seems that mmc is only for bba cards that is to say ati card by ati itself , so i have 2 ideas for u first u install an old aiw card and install mmc then remove this card without removing drivers and install ur new card and install its drivers with the mmc installed and it will work

or as i read here u may try to get a bios copy of ur card and edit it at 1002 to change its name from what it is to ATI and then reput it back to ur card and mmc will install

or u may use dscaler and try ur luck

 

[DA1745]

it seems that mmc is only for bba cards that is to say ati card by ati itself , so i have 2 ideas for u first u install an old aiw card and install mmc then remove this card without removing drivers and install ur new card and install its drivers with the mmc installed and it will work

or as i read here u may try to get a bios copy of ur card and edit it at 1002 to change its name from what it is to ATI and then reput it back to ur card and mmc will install

or u may use dscaler and try ur luck

While your post is very interesting and I bookmarked it b/c I may need to try that one day. I do not think the part I highlighted / Italic'd is entirely correct. ATI BBATI did make (most of the AIW)'s but I do remember some models being made by third party vendors. Although it's still possible, that they had to slightly customize there program to work with there cards that doesn't seem correct to me. I could be 100% wrong but weren't the third party vendor AIW cards able to download & use MMC from ATI's site?

I've had the same problem trying to install MMC software on a new build with an AIW 1800XL (see my separate post). According to AMD/ATI tech support MMC will not work on XP with SP3 installed... interesting.... and I also can't get the card to provide capture input to 3rd party software (Adobe Premiere, Nero 7, etc.). Tech support says I have to roll back to SP2 if I want MMC to work. ATI has essentially abandoned support for the AIW cards since they don't work with Vista (well they do work as a video card, just not all of the other features we bought the card for)... nice, huh?

I built another rig a few months back just to toy around with MCE2005, MMC, and CMC. Just for full disclosure I'm using a "modified" version of MCE 2005 SP3 (so I suppose something that has been removed from it may allow this to work that otherwise wouldn't); but I have the system (Abit IP-35e, E4400, 2GB DDR2 1066, AIW x800XL PCI-E) up and running Windows MC, Catalyst MC, and after I shut off Media Center's components in Services I get ATI's MMC to run.

Again it's possible that whatever has been stripped out of the installation is why i'm able to get MMC to install in MCE SP3, ....but it not only installed it works.
At first I didn't think it worked b/c I got no picture in MMC. But yet the channel scan found all the analog channels so I thought that's odd it detects only the correct chs but yet won't display anything but a black screen (no error etc). One day I was reading another post and they mentioned switching inputs (composite/svideo\TVtuner) I tried it and for a split second I saw TV. Later I read that some PC's stutter b/c of the always on TV recording in MMC9.10-9.16; and eventhough I am running it on an OC'd E4400 I thought better try it to rule it out...regedited the TV on Demand off and Wahla!!! It's been working ever since. (Catalyst 9.1, MMC9.16).