Theoretical performance of X1950 XT 256MB

ShaidarHaran

ShaidarHaran

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Yes, 256MB (if you believe FUD Abababa that is).
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Again, dunno how believeable it is but I think it's a good move if ATI chooses this path.

I'd guess a good 15% performance increase even over the current X1900 XT in all but the most frame-buffer-limited scenarios.
 
Gimme 512mb on my next card or I'm not getting it. Already seen the limits of 256mb and it hurts to hit it. AA/AF performance are the first casualties of 256mb cards in many modern games now.
 
Frame buffer size constraints can be overcome with more bandwidth though :cool:
Also, for as cheap as they're going to sell these things, why the hell not? They should be as fast as my XTX for probably half the price :eek:
 
moshpit said:
Gimme 512mb on my next card or I'm not getting it. Already seen the limits of 256mb and it hurts to hit it. AA/AF performance are the first casualties of 256mb cards in many modern games now.
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if you have enough RAM, then you'll be fine with X1950XT 256MB. It should be faster.
 
x1950xt 512 is real nice. 400 flat is even better.

crossfire 1950pros is very appealing for 400 flat as well.
 
Sound_Card said:
x1950xt 512 is real nice. 400 flat is even better.

crossfire 1950pros is very appealing for 400 flat as well.
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Hell yes it is. Oh, and the XTX 512 1950 should sell for $400 :D
CF 1950 Pros should go for $400 like you said, which is major :up: :cool:
 
Treeckcold57 said:
if you have enough RAM, then you'll be fine with X1950XT 256MB. It should be faster.
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RAM won't really help your gfx card if you don't have enough gfx memory for optimal performance ....

I completely agree with moshpit
if you want something good now, pick 512Mb or nothing
 
whismerhill said:
RAM won't really help your gfx card if you don't have enough gfx memory for optimal performance ....

I completely agree with moshpit
if you want something good now, pick 512Mb or nothing
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that depends on what res you play at. 256 play just fine on 12x10 with aa/af.
 
Sound_Card said:
that depends on what res you play at. 256 play just fine on 12x10 with aa/af.
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tried oblivion on a 7900gt at 1280x1024 with texture mods? stutter stutter stutter. im going for a x1950xt 512mb myself. :drool:
 
ShaidarHaran said:
yeah....... larger textures = larger frame buffer required ;)
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Most definitely.

Off hand two games that kill my 256mb X1800XT are Oblivion with the texture mods and COD2 with the texture res set to extra. Only having trouble with two games at certain settings may not sound like much but it's only a sign of things to come.

Every time I play Oblivion I kick myself for not putting up the extra 20 bones for the 512mb version. :(
 
No doubt a larger frame buffer @ same or higher speeds will always be superior to a smaller one. My point is simply that 256MB cards can still hold their own in today's games.
 
The 512mb version is looking EXTREMELY interesting considering it's giving the 7950GX2 a beating as often as not. Very nice. But so far, I'm not seeing any X1950XT 256mb, I'm hearing instead what we're about to see in the new 256mb segment is X1900XT 256mb instead.
 
Dave said:
tried oblivion on a 7900gt at 1280x1024 with texture mods? stutter stutter stutter. im going for a x1950xt 512mb myself. :drool:
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you pick the only game ATI has an advantage at, why does everyone refrance Oblvion its not even a good game.

moshpit said:
The 512mb version is looking EXTREMELY interesting considering it's giving the 7950GX2 a beating as often as not. Very nice. But so far, I'm not seeing any X1950XT 256mb, I'm hearing instead what we're about to see in the new 256mb segment is X1900XT 256mb instead.
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in what world does the 1950XTX beat the 7950GX2, the only game the 1950 is faster at is Oblvion which for some reason is all ATI fanitics look at, I could look just at Doom3 and Quake4 if I wanted but I don't.
 
candle_86 said:
you pick the only game ATI has an advantage at, why does everyone refrance Oblvion its not even a good game.
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Your opinion is in the minority is why. Thank god for that. Oblivion was a blast, but then as has been said many times by many players, Oblivion is only as good as the player who's playing it. The game is totally what YOU make out of it. If you suck, the game will suck. If you're creative, the game will be brilliant.

And you must be some kind of troll to say it's the ONLY game ATI has an advantage in. ATI has an advantage in IQ in a majority of games, Nvidia has the advantage of speed with some IQ sacrifice (7950GX2) in the majority. Your too new to be acting so fanboi-ish. You won't last around here with that attitude...
 
moshpit said:
The 512mb version is looking EXTREMELY interesting considering it's giving the 7950GX2 a beating as often as not. Very nice. But so far, I'm not seeing any X1950XT 256mb, I'm hearing instead what we're about to see in the new 256mb segment is X1900XT 256mb instead.
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moshpit said:
Your opinion is in the minority is why. Thank god for that. Oblivion was a blast, but then as has been said many times by many players, Oblivion is only as good as the player who's playing it. The game is totally what YOU make out of it. If you suck, the game will suck. If you're creative, the game will be brilliant.

And you must be some kind of troll to say it's the ONLY game ATI has an advantage in. ATI has an advantage in IQ in a majority of games, Nvidia has the advantage of speed with some IQ sacrifice (7950GX2) in the majority. Your too new to be acting so fanboi-ish. You won't last around here with that attitude...
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IQ ATI wins but it only matters above 16x12, and thats a fact stated time and agian on many sites. You cant tell the differance same as you cant tell the differance with 100+ FPS. I'm not tring to act like a fanboy just stating some general facts, and Oblivion is a segment sorta game like WOW. Most of my friends don't like those sorta games, more into CSS, DODS, Fear, ect. With the majorty of games I'm just saying unless your playing with super hi-res where the IQ is noticalbe Nvidia does have the speed crown, and unless your at super hi-res its the way to go for top end power.
 
NO, your wrong, angle dependant AF always looks worse at ANY resolution then ATI's HQAF. Sorry, but your wrong. The IQ difference is totally noticable. I build these rigs all day every day. I see 50+ machines a week across my desk with about an even mix of Nvidia and ATI cards in them. I'm telling you, the visual difference IS noticable just fine at 1280x1024 4xADAA 16xHQAF on the ATI versus 1280x1024 4xTSAA 16xAF on the Nvidia, and I could see MUCH better textures on the ATI and no texture shimmer. Nvidia shimmers, even on HQ settings it's only reduced.
 
moshpit said:
NO, your wrong, angle dependant AF always looks worse at ANY resolution then ATI's HQAF. Sorry, but your wrong. The IQ difference is totally noticable. I build these rigs all day every day. I see 50+ machines a week across my desk with about an even mix of Nvidia and ATI cards in them. I'm telling you, the visual difference IS noticable just fine at 1280x1024 4xADAA 16xHQAF on the ATI versus 1280x1024 4xTSAA 16xAF on the Nvidia, and I could see MUCH better textures on the ATI and no texture shimmer. Nvidia shimmers, even on HQ settings it's only reduced.
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guru3d, anandtech and toms all disagree with you, and so do I. IQ between my 7900GT and my friends 1900XTX look the same at 1600x1200 which is what we both game at. Fear Combat, COD2 and CSS look the same. His is just faster but at the speeds they both run who cares.
 
Screenshots don't transfer shimmer. And it seems SOME folks are less sensitive to it then others, you seem to be one of those. I can name 2x the number of sites that back what I'm saying including HardOCP, techreport, and even NVNews mentioning of shimmer that is supposedly REDUCED by HQ mode, but never entirely eliminated. I stand by my disagreement with you.
 
Seeing as how there is no 256MB X1950 XT, but instead a 256MB version of the existing X1900 XT, my hypothesis was wrong. That's what I get for listening to Fraud. When will I learn my lesson? :cry:
 
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