Rounded ATA/66/100 ide cables at Plycon.com

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supergfunk

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Thought some of you people would be interested in some of these cables...very nice...They are in limited supply and are kinda hard to find elsewhere....

sgf
 
I seen these cables awhile ago on that site and always wanted to order them. I guess it's the $30.00x2 price that scares me..
 
If you are patient, cut them yourself :)

All my IDE cable in my rig are rounded..even ATA100 cables :)
 
whoa, when you round your ata 66/100 cables, that doesnt introduce line noise in there? I'm afraid to do that because those cables are so sensitive already. Doubling them up might cause noise to seep through and give your transfers the smack down! Its highly possible because of the design of the cables. I could cut mine myself, but I dont feel like buying new ones for some "apparent" air flow increases. I have mine folded against the side of the case so they're already out of the way. Regular ata ide cables are like $2 on pricewatch. If you buy them from bestbuy, then they're $30. Those guys are making a huge profit on those cables...

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Reading around on the [H]ard forums, it seems that people are having good success in rounding their own ATA cables. I'm about to give it a go myself this weekend! :)
 
I rounded my old ata/33 cables with great success but I screwed one of my ata/66 cables up...too close to cut.

BTW, those cables are now 15.99 each...I order 2...that's the cheapest price around for machine made round 66/100 cables..

anyway I thought it was a good deal...

sgf
 
Yeah, that is a good deal. "machine rounded" is cool. I figured it was some guys in the back of comp usa cutting their cables with razor blades or something. I may be brave enough to try it out one day, but I'll need a steady supply of ide cables ready for those "slipups!"

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The whole point of 80pin ATA66 cables was that the extra ground lines between the data lines would prevent crosstalk (when laid flat). By cutting up the cables, you lose this preventitive measure. All you will end up with is a lower data transfer, due to corrupt TX's.
 
I'm glad to see this post here, I've got a question to ask you guys.
I just bought a 45gig ata100 drive, 2 actually, i returned the first one because i thought it was bad. I can't seem to run it with the ata100 cable installed (i tried 3) i get bad clusters on system shutdown and as a result i had too low level format to get them back. it might be caused by electrical interferance from a large fan in the side of my case. Do you think shortening the cable will help? I can make it about 4 inches long, but am afraid to try it again, what do you think?
 
I finally got around to it when I was using the exacto knife to strip the speaker wire (man that stuff's a ***** to setup, esp all over the house and through the attic...my back hurts...) while we were settin up the new 5.1 home theatre (I love XMAS!). It worked just fine for me, albeit I'm sure the machine made ones are a fair amount better quality and all. Euan, I'm sure that since these are machine made that they have a bit thicker insulation to get rid of that problem. Otherwise, it's not too big of an issue because the hard drives right now don't even really get over about 50mb/s in burst and 35mb/s in steady transfer (raid, add on another 10mb/s to each number).
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Verdana">quote:</font><HR><font face="Arial, Verdana" size="2">Originally posted by Boke:
I'm glad to see this post here, I've got a question to ask you guys.
I just bought a 45gig ata100 drive, 2 actually, i returned the first one because i thought it was bad. I can't seem to run it with the ata100 cable installed (i tried 3) i get bad clusters on system shutdown and as a result i had too low level format to get them back. it might be caused by electrical interferance from a large fan in the side of my case. Do you think shortening the cable will help? I can make it about 4 inches long, but am afraid to try it again, what do you think?</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is the large fan feeding from your PSU? how large are we talking? If you're not using PC or industrial grade DC fan, you may be introducing massive Back-EMF into the PSU which may affect other powerlines if the outputs are not properly filtered.

If you get too much DC fluctuations, you're gonna burn your HDD and CPU. I've seen too many HDD get toasted due to lousy PSU. Changing to a high quality PSU solves all the problem, including some stability and BSOD issues.

As for the length, reducing it will help to reduce emitting stray EMI and also prevent the cable picking them up from other components, but it should have nothing to do with ur Bad sector problem. This is because a fan, even when operating will emit only low frequency EMI, which will probably not affect the high-frequency in the cable or HDD.

Even if you get data error, it should not adversely affect the HDD's reliability or MTBF.

If you suspect it's the fan, take it out and see if it helps. Then u can decide to either change to a more stable PSU or a higher quality fan.

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[This message has been edited by E_T (edited 12-10-2000).]
 
This is nothing to do with any of the above. It is caused by the harddrive not finishing writing data to the harddrive before windows turns the power off. There is a patch for windows specifically for this. I think the problem is due to the large cache memory in the harddrive. As soon as the data is in the cache, windows assumes its been written, so it sends the command to turn off the power, thus the data is lost.


Snuff: only lead plated insulataion would cut down the EMI crosstalk from electrial cables. Magnetic fields from cables go far, far further than the insulation. The ground wires, however create a barrier forcing the adjacent fields away perpendicularily, where they are free to interfere with what ever the like. It is the same principle for co-axial cable. The cable is surrounded on a ground Sheild, that stops EMI entering the cable and been transduced into the signal.
 
Thanks for the tips guys :)
I think euankirkhope may have the right answer. The fan is a 4 inch cooling fan designed for PCs, it moves a massive amount of air(and is quite loud) but it only uses 3.7 watts. It only happens on shutdown, as long as I leave my computer on or only run DOS I have no problems. The large cache size might just be it, i'll try the patch.
 
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