Official Nvidia Ampere/Consumer Volta thread

the_sextein said:
It's possible but I'm gonna wait for Nvidia to confirm it first. There is still a chance they could paper launch them in June.
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who cares :lol:

even if AMD beats the 2080 ti by 25% the 3080 ti will be faster and NV will not change their high pricing plans

the 3080 non ti will most likely cost more than a big navi even if the 3080 is slower

NV has got too many people hoodwinked into not buying AMD .
 
bill dennison said:
who cares :lol:

even if AMD beats the 2080 ti by 25% the 3080 ti will be faster and NV will not change their high pricing plans

the 3080 non ti will most likely cost more than a big navi even if the 3080 is slower

NV has got too many people hoodwinked into not buying AMD .
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I agree, the 3080TI will not be effected by AMD at all. I don't buy 3080 level cards and I can't buy AMD for the rendering that I do. If all I did was game and I planned to buy a 3080 level card, I wouldn't have a problem buying AMD. However, I have heard a lot of negativity about their drivers which is really no different than the way ATI did things. Apparently, they have a problem with the screen going black with windows 10. They have been a mess for a long time and I don't know if they will ever pull out of it to be honest. I want them to do better in order to keep prices in check but in reality I can't even consider AMD GPU's for the things I do and until they start to be more competitive in rendering, gaming, driver stability, they will remain out of the race for me. If they have a new card that beats the 2080TI and comes out before the 3080 series launch then I will at least congratulate them on having the fastest card on the market for the first time since they bought ATI but they need to do better as the GPU industry is spreading all over the tech industry as you can see from Nvidia's portfolio of AI,ect and they are falling behind in multiple areas now.

The sooner Nvidia launches the 3080 the sooner AMD's prices will drop. Then getting a card that is faster than a 2080TI should be in the 900 range like people were hoping for. Even if it's a paper launch, I think that would be enough to spook AMD.
 
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I've had more problems with Nvidia drivers in TD2 than I did with AMD. At least DX12 support worked with my Radeon 7 in that game. It's broken with my 2080Ti, and they can't fix it.

I actually liked my Radeon 7. Stock cooler was a disappointment though.
 
KAC said:
With all this corona nonsense we will probably not get cards till Sep/Oct.
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Yeah, they are starting to warn of an impending pandemic which will wreck the global economy. Things were finally starting to recover from the last great depression and now we get more fun.:mad: Most of my life the economy has been one great big disaster after another.
 
Riptide said:
I've had more problems with Nvidia drivers in TD2 than I did with AMD. At least DX12 support worked with my Radeon 7 in that game. It's broken with my 2080Ti, and they can't fix it.

I actually liked my Radeon 7. Stock cooler was a disappointment though.
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Nvidia's RTX series also had problems with Hitman 2018 and I don't think they ever figured it out. However, the problems I was mentioning were more to do with general usage. While some users have no problems it seems that there is a large amount of users with general problems with the 5700XT. Myself, I haven't had a single GPU bug with the 1080TI's for 3 years now.

Here is a video about the problems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uynVO4ZXl0
 
the_sextein said:
Nvidia's RTX series also had problems with Hitman 2018 and I don't think they ever figured it out. However, the problems I was mentioning were more to do with general usage. While some users have no problems it seems that there is a large amount of users with general problems with the 5700XT. Myself, I haven't had a single GPU bug with the 1080TI's for 3 years now.

Here is a video about the problems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uynVO4ZXl0
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Nvidia's are no better. Have had more issues with Nvidia drivers than AMD drivers. Can't even run my monitor at 144 hz with Nvidia, have to run a custom setting and run it at 143hz (143.9 to be exact) or it black screens and/or randomly doesn't detect the monitor. Last 2 driver revisions cause Chrome to be just a black box.
 
Odd how that works, I've had no problems. Still, according to that video retailers are reporting 5X more returns for AMD cards than they are Nvidia and that is why brick and mortar stores prefer to sell Nvidia on their shelfs. Their poll also shows that 50% of AMD owners who participated reported having major issues and most of them said it was because of the black screen bug. AMD's driver notes admit that the black screen bug is a problem and it hasn't been fixed for 7 months. It happens when the system falls asleep. It happens when you game, it happens when to do parallel computing with the web browser open ect. So factually, AMD has bad drivers at this point which is costing them recommendations from respected sources like hardware unboxed. Nvidia doesn't have that many issues or pissed off customers.
 
KAC said:
With all this corona nonsense we will probably not get cards till Sep/Oct.
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If that comes to pass, then I don't feel quite as bad about dropping well over 1g on a 2080ti 3-4 months ago. :p
the_sextein said:
However, the problems I was mentioning were more to do with general usage. While some users have no problems it seems that there is a large amount of users with general problems with the 5700XT
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Yah I don't doubt that there is a genuine problem and it is affecting multiple users. When you see enough noise like this it doesn't seem to be an exotic bug.

I hope they sort this out. When I put a computer together this summer for my nephew I'm hoping we can use a 5700XT for it. If I still see complaining though, it might force me to pick something else instead like a 2070 super.
 
the_sextein said:
Another leak from Geekbench this time.:)

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-next-ge...2-cores-benchmarked-40-faster-than-titan-rtx/

There is no telling if this is true but if it is, I am leaning on this being GA100. The 3080TI will most likely be a cut down version of this which still leaves us guessing as to what we may end up with in the desktop world. If they really did build an 826mm chip on 7nm then.:eek:
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:lol:

yep

i give it 7% chance of being true

4,352 CUDA cores to 7552 and only 40% :bleh:

and another 24GB of memory :lol:

this is a fake to match the big navi fake last week

or maybe a high end pro card for 8k and the 3080 ti will be nowhere close to this
 
The VRAM is certainly wrong and I agree this isn't the 3080TI. It's probably their top notch data center GPU or the next gen Titan X 24GB model. Still, this looks promising if it is the GA100 without finalized clocks. 7nm+ would probably push the clocks way beyond 1Ghz which would make a huge difference. I could see the 3080TI delivering some serious performance increases if this is true. If it is showing a 40% improvement with a measly 1Ghz GPU clock then that would be awesome for power and heat while providing a nice improvement over the 2080TI. All they would need to do is improve their 7nm tech to 7nm++ and push the clocks back up to 2Ghz like the 1080TI and you would see that performance go sky high in the future. That would be enough to launch another more powerful line of GPU's at a later date without altering the current design too much.
 
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Next Gen consoles have 16GB of system RAM with 3GB reserved for the OS. So roughly 13GB. They are pushing 12 teraflops of throughput. With a modified 8 core 3700X for probably $500 to $600.

If the 2080TI has 14 Teraflops and 11GB of VRAM I could see the 3080TI pushing 16 Teraflops with 16GB of VRAM easily.

This seems to be in line with what those leaks are showing if the card is in fact GA100. It was showing 17 teraflops.

If AMD can supply those stats for a console then I would hope they plan something considerably better for the PC and Nvidia is gonna have to push even harder if they want to stay on top. I don't think 40 to 50% performance boosts over the last gen is all that unrealistic now that things are coming together.

Of course this is rumors for the most part but the console specs have been officially released. I think this year we are going to see one of the largest computational jumps in a long time. I hope so!:)

The Titan RTX has 24GB of VRAM so I would think the 24GB of reported VRAM is probably a test card with maximum VRAM installed on the card design. Consumer level cards will be lower but I think 16GB is realistic for the 3080TI.

With the console specs being what they are and the entire console costing half of what Nvidia charged for it's last cards I think it leaves Nvidia with two options. Lower the prices or increase the VRAM to 20GB.. VRAM is expensive when you start hitting 20GB and it wouldn't really have any use for gaming so the rumors of price drops might actually be true. Just some thoughts off the top of my head. These threads are always fun with a bit of speculation.

One last thing, you probably remember there was a rumor that GPU's would be able to share video memory in SLI when the RTX launched but then it turned out that it wasn't true. Well, it wasn't true for games but it does work with Nvidia's new bridge on the RTX line of cards for rendering. So my VRAM issues with DAZ studio will be officially done regardless of what VRAM configuration these next cards have. According to Nvidia's site, the 24GB Titan X will allow a full 48GB of VRAM for massive render modeling with multi GPU. I didn't notice that before so I'm happy.:drool:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/deep-learning-ai/products/titan-rtx/
 
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the_sextein said:
Looks like AMD just fixed most of it's problems. Still, seven months is a long time. Check out the huge list of fixes that just rolled out.

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-adr...now-fixing-lots-of-community-reported-issues/
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:lol:

most of it started with the new 2020 Adrenalin Driver in December with the yearly revamp
https://wccftech.com/amd-adrenalin-...performance-boost-several-new-features-added/

it's easier for NV since they have not changed the driver UI since windows 3.0
and only tacked on the POS geforce experience that is only good for downloading driver updates
 
Oh, I didn't know that. I read that the black screen problem has been around for seven months causing problems all over the place. Either way it looks like they fixed 4 different instances that were causing it in various scenarios.
 
More specs posted on a German site floating around since October of last year. The leak posted yesterday stated that the specs didn't inlcude the highest card. This seems to show an even higher card with over 8000 cores as the data center and shows the 3080TI as having over 7000 cores.
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Sure seems like alot of cores when comparing to the 2080TI but maybe that is what they decided to go with due to low core clocks in 7nm. This doesn't seem out of the realm of possability being that as the silicon improves Nvidia could sit around and pump out multiple generations of cards based on the new process improvement to their design without lifting a finger. It also gives them the ability to tap into much more power based on how AMD performs. Who knows but it's interesting that these guys had data back then that is matching the benchmark submissions to whatever those cards were that leaked out yesterday. I don't know how they would fake a geekbench submission so something powerful is definatly out there.
 
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