Official AMD Ryzen 5000 Series & 7000 Series Thread

AM4 still?

Isnt it gonna die after Ryzen4000?


The 5000 gen of apus uses the 4000 gen (zen3) ryzen cores. As the 4000 gen apus use ryzen 3000... so expect the 6000 gen apus to probably be the last apus on am4.
 
Hmm well Zen+ had a node change to 12nm from 14nm. While this doesnt seem to. Itd be cool to see Zen 3+ on 6 or 5nm tho.
 
So the 520's will have no issues running zen3 and above but were supposed to believe the x370's with better vrm's cant...


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So the 520's will have no issues running zen3 and above but were supposed to believe the x370's with better vrm's cant...


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It's not that 300 series boards can't handle Zen 3; it's the fact that all of the microcode required to support all of the AM4 SKUs doesn't fit in a standard 16MB BIOS flash chip. Trying to support Zen 3 on 300-series boards would result in a massive number of RMAs due to users pairing a new CPU with an old stock mobo or an old stock CPU with a mobo flashed to the latest BIOS.

If AMD had mandated 32MB BIOS chips and/or BIOS flashback the situation would be much better.
 
No thats been debunked. Im running the latest 10 mb bios (latest agesa 1.0.0.6) out of 16 that includes apus. And even if you needed more than 6 megs of room few if any are running apus on a high end mobo. So ditch em.
 
No thats been debunked. Im running the latest 10 mb bios (latest agesa 1.0.0.6) out of 16 that includes apus. And even if you needed more than 6 megs of room few if any are running apus on a high end mobo. So ditch em.

Its true to a certain extent.

They'd have to pick and choose which CPU's to support and which to drop.

I had installed a Ryzen 3600 into an A320 mobo when those first came out, and the bios update had removed support for all the CPU's prior to the zen lineup (i forget if they even removed support for Zen1) and reduced the bios UI from fancy to just basic.
 
So the bios size is what...

When people talk about "BIOS size", are they referring to the size in megabytes and the like or physical size? And what is the importance of BIOS size?
 
Referring to how much data can be stored in Bios. It can be an issue because like the current situation, when new CPUs are released there may not be enough room to add bios support/firmware for those CPUs, even though the board can physically support them.

I thought a solution could be to perhaps have several tiers of Bios and you just install the version that supports your CPU, but I suppose that just gets too messy for the average user and opens a can of worms concerning tech support for AMD.
 
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