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squid said:
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Wow, that is ugly.
 
GRimm862 said:
I think it's hawt.
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http://www.moderntiredealer.com/Blo...e-stretching-and-survival-of-the-fittest.aspx

Dave | January 16 said:
Dear Lori: I have had requests for what has been described as "tire stretching," but for a different reason. Some customers have requested a lesser-priced tire, proposing a smaller, narrower-sized tire.

Each time I explain the consequences of what may happen, the investment that they are making, the few dollars saved verses the risk, the customer comes back to their senses and reasoning.

Without getting too technical, when a wider or narrower tire is placed on a width wheel that is out of spec. for the size, a whole change of dynamics will occur to the tire. Number one is safety. Safety not only to the operator, but to the installer. Bead rupture is a possibility as the tire tries to conform itself unrightly to a too narrow or too wide wheel. Safety to the customer because the tires rated performance is greatly reduced, ie; speed rating, air pressure, load carrying capacity, wear characteristics, traction, bead leaking, just to mention a few.

A part of what is wrong with our society is that the consumer is not held accountable for their careless actions of misuse and applications of well-designed products that, when used in the context of design, function well.The rest of our society suffers with higher costs of products and services to cover litigations or the possibilities there of or is removed from availability.
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Most came back to their senses... :lol:

randoll | January 17 said:
Tire stretching or mounting tires "Hipari Style" originated in Japan. The reason for such setup mainly stemmed from auto enthusiasts wanting to lower their vehicle which sits on outrageously wide wheels without the tires hitting the fenders. They also camber their wheels to help in gaining some clearance.

Here in Trinidad and Tobago there are no stringent laws about tire/wheel setups.

I've done a couple AFTER explaining to the customer who was well aware of the dangers of such a setup. These guys are practicing on a drift circuit and says the Hipari setup makes drift sessions easier because of less traction and smaller contact patch. We don't mount the wheels on the car however. I've been to the drift session unknowing to the guys and saw them mounting their wheels at the circuit so I'm pretty comfortable knowing these guys are responsible and do not run these wheels on public roads.

We don't use the "blow up" method like what you may see on youtube since the invention of the bead seater.
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I bolded some of the best parts. Dangerous for on the road activities, should only be used on the track. :bleh:

It's like they say "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right." Get rims with a proper offset and if you want your car to rattle itself apart and beat the crap out of you then get the fender lips rolled... It's soooo hard to make a tire fit... :lol:
 
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It's still sexy. Nobody does it for performance reasons....

Tell me this isn't sexy.
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Only ricers think that. It looks freakin' stupid. And anyone that would choose to do that knowing what they are doing to their tires, their car, their performance, and above all...safety, is a complete and total moron. :p

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GRimm862 said:
It's still sexy. Nobody does it for performance reasons.... :nuts:

Tell me this isn't sexy.

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No sir. Its not sexy. :no:

Edit : Not only would a proper fitting tire look better, it would perform, and ride better too.
 
Sure maybe you guys don't like it!! Fine by me. No harm done.

The safety concerns have been beaten like a dead horse. There is no evidence or records of tires exploding or causing any harm that are stretched. There has never been a recorded incident. Try and find one....

It's a style. That many people like and many people don't.

The ones usually complaining about it are older middle aged dudes, that think their DD is a track monster and should have big beefy tires to hug those corners you go around no faster than the speed limit.

Sorry but If I think it looks good and it isn't causing ANY harm than it's all good.
 
GRimm862 said:
Sure maybe you guys don't like it!! Fine by me. No harm done.

The safety concerns have been beaten like a dead horse. There is no evidence or records of tires exploding or causing any harm that are stretched. There has never been a recorded incident. Try and find one....

It's a style. That many people like and many people don't.

The ones usually complaining about it are older middle aged dudes, that think their DD is a track monster and should have big beefy tires to hug those corners you go around no faster than the speed limit.

Sorry but If I think it looks good and it isn't causing ANY harm than it's all good.
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Ive watched a tire come off a wheel in a parking lot race.. With a car that had its tires/wheels setup in such a fashion.

Dont tell me its not an issue, Ive watched it.
 
VW_Factor said:
Ive watched a tire come off a wheel in a parking lot race.. With a car that had its tires/wheels setup in such a fashion.

Dont tell me its not an issue, Ive watched it.
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Oh yeah? So your supposed "eye witness" account will be enough to deter me from believing what is fact in my mind?

Like I said show me some hard evidence.

I dunno about you but the thousands of dubbers riding on stretched tires haven't had a problem. It's already been stated you don't do it so you can go race around a track.

Whatever you say when I get rims the stretch will be going down.
 
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Disgusting Mark 2 with a fully hand built suspension, (custom control arms, sway bars, strut towers.

RWD, rear engine.

Fully hand built fiberglass aerodynamics. This guy is insane with his skills.
 
GRimm862 said:
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Disgusting Mark 2 with a fully hand built suspension, (custom control arms, sway bars, strut towers.

RWD, rear engine.

Fully hand built fiberglass aerodynamics. This guy is insane with his skills.
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Its a shame he has no eye for design :bleh: still, props for all the work he's doing.
 
VW_Factor said:
Ive watched a tire come off a wheel in a parking lot race.. With a car that had its tires/wheels setup in such a fashion.

Dont tell me its not an issue, Ive watched it.
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heaps of people here (mainly drifters) run stretched tires and i've never seen one come off, even when using yum cha brand tyres. i had a bit of stretch on the front on my last car using reasonable tyres (toyo proxes 4 215/45 on a 17x9" rim) and i had no issues with grip, and i had more road feel than when i was running the same size tyre on a 17x8" rim. i could have fitted a 225/45 tyre, but at $80 a tyre extra for a 5% increase in contact patch, it wouldn't be worth it. going wider isn't always the best if you are sacrificing decent compound for a slightly larger compound patch. on the rear you don't want stretched tyres, but you don't want bulging tyres either or the car will wobble. my mr2 came with 225/50 tyres on a 16x6" rim on the back and it felt terrible. i've now got 16x7" rims on the back with 205/45 tyres and it handles a lot better.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbRYrS79JMU&feature=related

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looks pretty hot, but i doubt they will actually make it.


anyhow, less talk, more pics!

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i've forgotten what the name of this car is, but it's pretty insane.
 
GRimm862 said:
*snip*
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So like most things Ricers do, it is to look "cool" at the sacrifice of performance... :lol:

squid said:
i had more road feel than when i was running the same size tyre on a 17x8" rim.
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I've noticed something, to run stretched tires most people reccomend a higher psi than a tire of the proper sizing... I know in my car, if I keep the tires up where they are the happiest, they tend to also give an increase in road feel. I honestly have to wonder if this isn't just bogusness brought on by most ricer drivers not realizing the difference 50psi in a tire makes vs. 30psi in terms of overall tire rigidity. I can also see a another reason for all the extra pressure when you spread a tire like that you concave the contact patch, so you push the pressure up to make it go slightly convex.
 
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gamefoo21 said:
So like most things Ricers do, it is to look "cool" at the sacrifice of performance... :lol:



I've noticed something, to run stretched tires most people reccomend a higher psi than a tire of the proper sizing... I know in my car, if I keep the tires up where they are the happiest, they tend to also give an increase in road feel. I honestly have to wonder if this isn't just bogusness brought on by most ricer drivers not realizing the difference 50psi in a tire makes vs. 30psi in terms of overall tire rigidity. I can also see a another reason for all the extra pressure when you spread a tire like that you concave the contact patch, so you push the pressure up to make it go slightly convex.
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i ran 34psi in my tyres, same with all the wheels i had. i experimented a bit with tyre pressures, anything significantly less made the tyre sloppy, anything significantly more made it too hard and reduced grip.

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mmm carbon
 
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