It's 2018 and still no 4k monitor with 120hz or 144hz support?

Och

Och

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It seems that both HDMI and DP have finally caught up and have the bandwith to display 4k resolution at 120hz. Why do we still not have a single monitor with support for it?
 
On a more serious note I suspect that the first wave of HDR monitors will have a higher priority than 4k120.
 
I wonder if they have issues with getting them running at 144hz?

Might end up being 4k60 monitors with an OC mode like those 3440x1440 monitors are.
 
Och said:
It seems that both HDMI and DP have finally caught up and have the bandwith to display 4k resolution at 120hz. Why do we still not have a single monitor with support for it?
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HDMI 2.0/A/B will not support 4K/120Hz as there is not enough bandwidth.

HDM1 2.1( released Dec 2017 ) will support 4K/144Hz with 24/30Bit.

Display Port 1.4 will not support 4K/120Hz as again, not enough bandwidth

Display Port Next Gen ( 1.5? Not yet released ) will support 4K/144Hz 24/30Bit.

HDMI 2.1 has just been released, we will probably need new video cards and new monitor which are coming in 2018.

http://www.pcgamer.com/asus-and-acer-delay-feature-rich-4k-144hz-monitors-with-hdr-until-2018/ )

There is no info on the next gen Display port release though.
 
Hapatingjaky said:
HDMI 2.0/A/B will not support 4K/120Hz as there is not enough bandwidth.

HDM1 2.1( released Dec 2017 ) will support 4K/144Hz with 24/30Bit.

Display Port 1.4 will not support 4K/120Hz as again, not enough bandwidth

Display Port Next Gen ( 1.5? Not yet released ) will support 4K/144Hz 24/30Bit.

HDMI 2.1 has just been released, we will probably need new video cards and new monitor which are coming in 2018.

http://www.pcgamer.com/asus-and-acer-delay-feature-rich-4k-144hz-monitors-with-hdr-until-2018/ )

There is no info on the next gen Display port release though.
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According to wikipedia, even DP 1.3 supports 4k @ 120hz, and 1.4 supports up to 240hz (albeit compressed).

Not sure if anything can 4k@120hz and HDR10.
 
Och said:
According to wikipedia, even DP 1.3 supports 4k @ 120hz, and 1.4 supports up to 240hz (albeit compressed).

Not sure if anything can 4k@120hz and HDR10.
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False, this is from the Wiki article:

HDMI Standard 8Bit "HDR"

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HDMI 10Bit HDR

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HDMI 2.0/A/B does not support 120Hz according to Wiki's charts.
 
Och said:
According to wikipedia, even DP 1.3 supports 4k @ 120hz, and 1.4 supports up to 240hz (albeit compressed).

Not sure if anything can 4k@120hz and HDR10.
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I would be happy for 4k@90hz in a 40 to 50 inch freesync 2 or g sync

with both dp 1.4 and HDM1 2.1


as your not going to get 4k@120 with a single 1180 ti or any single card for years
 
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We'll get new screens that will be doing 4K 144Hz HDR10 screens in 2018, probably Q1 but it will only be through HDMI unless they do dual port which is unlikely.

Question is will Navi and Volta support HDMI 2.1 as TitanV only supports 2.0b.
 
Hapatingjaky said:
We'll get new screens that will be doing 4K 144Hz HDR10 screens in 2018, probably Q1 but it will only be through HDMI unless they do dual port which is unlikely.

Question is will Navi and Volta support HDMI 2.1 as TitanV only supports 2.0b.
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maybe show at CES but when they hit stores is anyone's guess


Question two is will NVidia g-sync work on HDMI 2.1 and Volta ?

FreeSync works on hdmi now
 
bill dennison said:
maybe show at CES but when they hit stores is anyone's guess


Question two is will NVidia g-sync work on HDMI 2.1 and Volta ?

FreeSync works on hdmi now
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There shouldn't be anymore need for Freesync/Gsync at all since both Display Port and HDMI 2.1 allow for the same feature within the tech.

But its Nvidia, and they will milk it...
 
I am not sure Windows 10 is ready for HDR support yet. I think there are a lot of bugs.

I am waiting probably until 2019 or 2020 for a new monitor.
 
Same here. Not gonna upgrade this KS8000 "monitor" for at least a year. Probably going to do it when I upgrade my GPUs to something which supports the new HDMI standard.
 
Seems that there's movement on the 8k display resolution front, when it comes to getting the signal from the video card to the display itself:


http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/vesa-to-offer-dp8k-certified-displayport-cables-for-8k-video.html



The display port standard updated to allow makers to market display port cables in which a single cable is enough to handle 8K and clearly labeled as such on the connector itself, at least when it comes to video playback......Seems there's a lot of lower quality crap being sold on the market....


This isn't something i'm even thinking about in terms of upgrades, since while we do have the technology to make 8K displays, just by looking at the capabilities in the latest cell phones with their 1080p native resolution on a 5~6 inch screen, The load on a GPU increases by 4X in gaming when compared to 4K so even if the latest cards can do 60 Fps at the latter resolution, it'll get knocked down to 15 Fps when running the same game at the same settings at 8K resolutions (7680*4320 resolution ), so that means multi GPU setups exclusively and even then using the absolute latest cards that will be releasing in 2018 and hope for the best, as getting 60 Fps might still be too hard even then.



I'll be looking at this well before moving to 8K:


http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/lg-to-release-34in-wide-screen-monitor-with-resolution-of-5120x2160-pixels.html


5120*2160 is just much more realistic for upcoming GPU's to handle as it's about 40% harder to drive than 4k, not 4x harder like an 8K display will be.....It's just too much for a single GPU to handle anytime soon, and do so smoothly at 60 Fps ( or more ).
 
You cannot do chroma 4:4:4 HDR10 at 3820 x 2160. You are limited to 4:2:2 which affects text. So for 4K HDR10 gaming it's best to run 4:2:2 in gaming and 4:4:4 in the desktop with no HDR10 running. So far I only know how to do this screwing around in the Nvidia control panel and using Microsoft's controls to turn HDR on and off. I'll probably be an early adopter of HDMI 2.1
 
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You cannot do chroma 4:4:4 HDR10 at 3820 x 2160. You are limited to 4:2:2 which affects text. So for 4K HDR10 gaming it's best to run 4:2:2 in gaming and 4:4:4 in the desktop with no HDR10 running. So far I only know how to do this screwing around in the Nvidia control panel and using Microsoft's controls to turn HDR on and off. I'll probably be an early adopter of HDMI 2.1
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Means that apart from a new monitor with HDMI 2.1, it also means buying a new video card that's beyond the Volta and Navi generations, since as mentioned earlier the HDMI 2.1 spec was just released, and it takes time to integrate it and certify it as compliant.....Even the 3000$ Titan V using big Volta doesn't have it.
 
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