House of the Dragon (GOT prequel)

Weird thing is...it doesn't really feel like any of the deaths in this show would matter like they did in GOT.

In the original show, you'd really be rooting for a character and then they'd die unexpectedly and would piss you off. In this show...I can't think of any character that could die that would have any emotional effect on me...like none.

because they really haven't spent a lot of time setting up these characters and putting them into legitimate threatening situations. like we knew that daemon wouldn't die when he went after crabfeeder... princess wasn't really in trouble when uncle was about to have sex with her because she was into it... NOW we know the king isn't really in trouble from his health because he survives.

and since we have "new" characters with the time jump (i know they are not new but they act like new people), we feel even less connected and relatable. the time jump was a REAL mood killer for me. Everyone has a million teenaged kids who we don't know how they grew up...
 
Huh. After the last episode I just don’t care any more. Felt like a reboot with weaker characters.
 
Huh. After the last episode I just don’t care any more. Felt like a reboot with weaker characters.

EXACTLY! Couldn't have said it better myself. Same general problems... Same general non-solutions... The injection of like 10 different new kids into the story also didn't help AT ALL. They're gonna have to find a way to make us care about them because they're losing me.
 
EXACTLY! Couldn't have said it better myself. Same general problems... Same general non-solutions... The injection of like 10 different new kids into the story also didn't help AT ALL. They're gonna have to find a way to make us care about them because they're losing me.

And now, the once shrewd and calculating Rynarese is supposed to be stupid... thinking nothing of being an Easy Bake oven for brown-haired Stark babies? Didn't think about bedding a white-haired lad just to keep up the ruse? Sheesh
 
The show is a weird dichotomy in that it is both too slow, and too fast. It is too slow in that it seems to focus too much on the internal politics of the king and the drama on his family with nothing much else going on, yet it's too fast because it skips ahead every episode anywhere from months to years which makes it hard to follow. In the most recent episode, I found myself asking; "Who the fu** are these people? It took me half the episode to realize the princess was fuc**** somebody else again (new actress also threw me off) and she just randomly popped out some kids.

I don't care for all this time skipping because it is confusing.
 
Fascinating story so far, and I do think the writing is still top-notch... but yeah they kindof messed up the time-transition, and some of the re-casting doesn't work well. Actually the actress they got to play the older version of the Queen is a dead-ringer for the younger actress... I had to check IMDB to see if they had re-cast her or just put her in older makeup. But the blond princess, the older actress doesn't look, sound, or act like her. It feels like a totally different person, so a bit of a failure there.

Also, seems like everyone has become much more unlikable since the time-jump. One of the cardinal rules of writing imo, is characters must be likable to the audience. Characters can still be flawed, evil, make mistakes, do bad things, but if the audience is going to spend alot of hours with these characters, we have to WANT to be around them. Purely unlikable characters are a turn-off, and the audience can't stick with them for long.


I love what they're doing with the uncle (Matt Smith's character). He's sinister, and can be downright evil, but also largely misunderstood. I believe him when he said he'd protect the king from everyone including the king himself... I predict we'll find later that his loyalty outweighs his other negative qualities, and he'll likely be quite an important antihero before the end.

It appears that he's self-exiled himself, to avoid being sucked back into family politics. Maybe he's doing that because he was exhausted, or maybe to protect his brother? Maybe he knows that if he returns, he can't resist plotting against them? Of course he's going to end up coming back at some point, and we'll see if he saves or betrays them.
 
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And wtf was up with that fap scene? It was completely pointless and I guarantee that NOBODY wanted to see that, manches or not.
 
Later we're going to find out that there was a woman doing some naked yoga on the ground below the tower, who accidentally caught some prince jizz in her vajayjay, and now there's another challenger to become heir to the throne.
 
They were trying to make it this super sad affair that she died...and yet I couldn't find myself any feeling to care. She was just a placeholder, in only two episodes. How do we get attached to a character that fast?
 
They were trying to make it this super sad affair that she died...and yet I couldn't find myself any feeling to care. She was just a placeholder, in only two episodes. How do we get attached to a character that fast?

I think the point is that we're going to see the princess and her uncle go super evil now that they're boinking. If you barely care about the deaths of their loved ones, that reflects the fact that they barely care either.
 
I think the point is that we're going to see the princess and her uncle go super evil now that they're boinking. If you barely care about the deaths of their loved ones, that reflects the fact that they barely care either.

It's more simple than that. In GOT, it was an utter shock when most characters died (the red wedding especially). The show had us masterfully rooting for house Stark...and then they were all wiped out. It was something that made you think..."Wow, I can't believe that happened". We were invested in that family.

For Daemon's wife, we barely knew her. There was no investment, she just suicided and we the audience are left thinking; "Oh...ok".
 
I took the funeral scene mainly as showing a bunch of people who haven't been near each in a while seeing each other with tensions boiling over, all while keeping up apperances, as they're expected to. I didn't feel the scene was meant for the viewing audience to be sad for the character. In the scene it was really only her immediate family that was showing any grief.
 
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