cyberpunk 2077 -> Orion

koralis

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I liked Control.

"I see that we didn't push the envelope far enough in some places, for instance," said Paweł Sasko, Associate Game Director at CD Project RED. "Like, let's say the homeless crisis... when I look at it, I'm like, we weren't far enough in '77. We thought that we were dystopian, but... we just touched the surface."

The general hope aired in the podcast is that, now that they have a studio in the US, the creators can make the sequel more true-to-life, and engage more deeply in some issues the first game didn't address. The planned sequel is internally called "Orion" and we don't know much about it yet, except that it has the lead writer of Control at its narrative helm.
 
If they can do this while still making the game entertaining, I don't care. I am worried it's going to be used as a platform for activist finger-wagging, and that falls way short of my "is it entertaining?" threshold.
 
It's much worse than that sadly.
Mary Kenney. Yes they hired her i have no clue why it seems like insanity.
I believe she is from "sweet baby inc"
 
Oh my god can these people fuck off. Every day I wish pc/console game was gate kept and stayed in nerd only territory and never got adapted by these tourists.
 
Sci-fi / cyberpunk media: *makes social commentary*

Gamers: *ermagerd ma vidya games!*

What kind of scared nonsense is this from you guys, get a grip. It would be a sad day if games weren't allowed to have a voice. Project Orion's narrative lead is Anna Megill, who's been in the industry for over 20 years, and has worked on Fable, Control, Dishonored and Guild Wars. Mary Kenney is a senior writer at CD Project Red and her resume includes Miles Morales, The Walking Dead, Dying Light 2 and Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart. Both have won a ton of awards and here you guys are crying as if the world's ending.

If the game turns out shite, fine, but just the mere mention of award-winning writers doesn't exactly spark fear in me.
 
uhuh uhuh

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“We Need To Pull Every Lever We Have” - Insomniac's Narrative Director Discusses Lack Of LGBTQ Content in Video Games"​


Well i for one CAN NOT WAIT ! YAY !!!
I don't want my games to be shoving "the message" down my throat. Is that too much to ask? Just leave that crap out of games

I am JUST so SICK of it 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

You say "If the game turns out shite, oh well".... OH WELL? Cyberpunk 2, turning out SHITE because of this is no big deal to you? I would find it SUCH a freaking shame if that would happen. I'd rather prevent it man, if i could.
 
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Sci-fi / cyberpunk media: *makes social commentary*

Gamers: *ermagerd ma vidya games!*

What kind of scared nonsense is this from you guys, get a grip. It would be a sad day if games weren't allowed to have a voice. Project Orion's narrative lead is Anna Megill, who's been in the industry for over 20 years, and has worked on Fable, Control, Dishonored and Guild Wars. Mary Kenney is a senior writer at CD Project Red and her resume includes Miles Morales, The Walking Dead, Dying Light 2 and Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart. Both have won a ton of awards and here you guys are crying as if the world's ending.

If the game turns out shite, fine, but just the mere mention of award-winning writers doesn't exactly spark fear in me.
These people are literally parasites who are taking over all these old IPs and shoving this shit down our throats and expecting us to like it. Blizzard is a husk of what it once was. I wouldn't have that much of a problem with all this progressive stuff if the games they were making were original works, I would just choose not to play them if they didn't interest me. Instead they are flat out ruining my favorite classic things and it's is an awful feeling. Worse yet new generations growing up with this brainrot will think that those classic series were always like this. Look at what they've done to star wars, with the latest trainwreck of acolyte. Fable, Dishonered (redfall), DL2, Morales, etc, are all examples of things going bad.
 
I see a lot of swear words for what's essentially representation of different people. If you just want "mommy and daddy had a baby and the baby turned into GI Joe and saved the world", then I wish you the best of luck. I do not agree that better representation is ruining video games.
 
I see a lot of swear words for what's essentially representation of different people. If you just want "mommy and daddy had a baby and the baby turned into GI Joe and saved the world", then I wish you the best of luck. I do not agree that better representation is ruining video games.
I don't care what race/gender a character is if the story is interesting/entertaining, that's not what this is about. The problem is these people are making one dimensional characters to talk down at the audience that plays them and force their real life politics on them, and furthermore bash the original gamer audience for not liking this crap in their classic IPs.
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I see a lot of swear words for what's essentially representation of different people. If you just want "mommy and daddy had a baby and the baby turned into GI Joe and saved the world", then I wish you the best of luck. I do not agree that better representation is ruining video games.
Around 10% of the population is gay/bi.
That's not a lot. Of those 10%, a FRACTION is *insert outrageous made up pronoun*

Yet, if games or movies or series go the woke way, suddenly 90% of the cast is LGBT, and there is 1 white dude who is constantly berated by some gay girl 🤣🤣
They can NOT dose it right. They ALWAYS go overboard massively making everything literally gay and lame (in the words of Cartman)

 
They can NOT dose it right.
I can imagine there's an over-correction for a hundred years of straight-only media. But if that's the argument you want to eventually land on, then maybe start there. Don't go "this shit propaganda is being forced down my throat, keep that crap out of my entertainment", that's exactly the kind of brutally negative attitude that motivates people to try even harder to normalize the fact that gender, sex, ethnic background, social position and whatnot are all factual scales, not digital opinions.

I was reading an article yesterday, that said that social acceptance of gay people among Dutch teenagers had taken a drastic dive. That's just the idea that someone is gay and that's ok. That acceptance alone had dropped sharply. You can guess the response that's going to elicit: more education on lhbtqi+ issues, more education on social acceptance, more media talking about this issue, more people all trying to do the right thing and combat what are essentially religious and/or hardliner and/or extremist views growing among teens.

One of my students is obviously gay. He's switching class next year because we're re-mixing our students and their classes. I overheard other students on how they don't trust him, won't be friends with him, don't want him near them or touching them, all because he's gay. They were openly talking about shunning him, purely over his sexuality. This is just one of many anecdotes I've seen over the years. So I think it's fine to be critical of our media, education and other (social) systems and how we treat social acceptance. But I would urge anyone to choose their words carefully, because the painful fact is we're a long way from where we should be as humans.
 
Sounds like another overcorrection the other way.

Anyway, the market speaks. If unpaid reviewers say the game is trash, then it's probably trash. Valve has cultivated something really special with Steam.

I remember playing GTA IV and Niko started bashing capitalism right out of the gate. But the game was fun and he definitely proved to have capitalist tendencies, so seemed like intentional irony. Social/political things can be entertaining so I'm not rushing to judgment just yet on this.
 
I can imagine there's an over-correction for a hundred years of straight-only media. But if that's the argument you want to eventually land on, then maybe start there. Don't go "this shit propaganda is being forced down my throat, keep that crap out of my entertainment", that's exactly the kind of brutally negative attitude that motivates people to try even harder to normalize the fact that gender, sex, ethnic background, social position and whatnot are all factual scales, not digital opinions.

I was reading an article yesterday, that said that social acceptance of gay people among Dutch teenagers had taken a drastic dive. That's just the idea that someone is gay and that's ok. That acceptance alone had dropped sharply. You can guess the response that's going to elicit: more education on lhbtqi+ issues, more education on social acceptance, more media talking about this issue, more people all trying to do the right thing and combat what are essentially religious and/or hardliner and/or extremist views growing among teens.

One of my students is obviously gay. He's switching class next year because we're re-mixing our students and their classes. I overheard other students on how they don't trust him, won't be friends with him, don't want him near them or touching them, all because he's gay. They were openly talking about shunning him, purely over his sexuality. This is just one of many anecdotes I've seen over the years. So I think it's fine to be critical of our media, education and other (social) systems and how we treat social acceptance. But I would urge anyone to choose their words carefully, because the painful fact is we're a long way from where we should be as humans.
Oh PLEASE ... When did "Will and Grace" air?
1998 or something? Nobody bitched about it, it was a very popular show.

And what that article you read yesterday fails to mention, that these "Dutch teenagers" are MUSLIM teenagers EXCLUSIVELY.
With the growing muslim population in Europe due to immigration, the 'gay hate' is indeed growing. But again, muslims exclusively

"Dutch teenagers" ... gtfo please with that fake news
 
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I suppose you're free to think the way you think, but we're not going to see eye to eye very quickly. I have no fear that a Cyberpunk sequel is going to be ruined because it features social commentary.
 
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It will be ruined because of identity politics. Mark my words and watch the reviews.
Just like star wars is now about a women only lesbian communist commune and the Jedi are now somehow the bad guys 🤣 🤣 🤮 🤮

 
That's the 2nd time I've seen that and it's somehow even more cringy than the first. Like, maybe my mind memory papered over how terrible it was. Egads.
 
It's a topic that quickly gets into P&R, so for the moment, don't get into the whole DEI discourse. That may change later, but for now plz no more. That's why it was removed. So I'm clipping both your post @the_sextein and yours @Kain.

If we come to a different conclusion among the mods, I'll un-delete them and let you know. But for now, it stops here guys.
 
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