Catalyst Driver Problem.

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PharZyde

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Hello, this is my system :

Gigabyte G1 sniper 3 [Nyeste Bios F7]
Intel I7 3770k
32 Gb Ddr 2400 G-Skill Ram 10-12-12-32 2t
2x Asus r9 290x Dcu II
2 x Kingston Ssd
7x 3 Tb Seagates
Monitor : Dell U2713H og Samsung Syncmaster P2770FH
Dvd Brænder
Logitech G19
Razer Naga 2014 8200 Dpi
Razer Orbweaver Stealth

My problem is that when i try to install a never catalyst driver than the catalyst 14.4 Whql my pc crashes randomly in Windows.

catalyst 14,4 whql Works fine, but everything after that seems to crash my Cards.

i tried both my asus r9 290x Dcu II Cards 1 by 1... it still dos it there, so i dont think the Cards are broken, i just cant beleave that those 2 Cards cant run with anything never than catalyst 14.4 whql.

i tried a fresh install of Windows 8.1 pro Danish version, no luck.

the way it crashes is the screen flimmers like a Picture on tv that isent fine tuned.

anyone havving t he same problem? and a solution?

the crashed comes strangle not at the same point, it can happend when you enter Windows or when you uses Windows for a short time, also it can give me a Black screen.
 
I am assuming you are using this version of the PSU

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=226&area=en

You have 8x 12v rails, each capable of 25amps peak of 30amps ( not recommended ). A 290x can pull 30amps to 35amps meaning you could be running into issues depending how you have your wiring done. Trust me, I ran in to issues with my old Enermax 1500WATT, now I am on a single 12v rail capable of 125amps.

Here's what you need to do, download the rail distribution guide:

http://www.silverstonetek.com/downloads/PSU/ST1500_cable_define.pdf

and look at how the rails are divided up. You want to make sure that you are using Seperate rails per PCI-E cable.

12v5
12v6
12v7
12v8

Those are the PCI-E Rails as per the distribution guide. You should split each 290x between two rails a peice.

12v5+12v6 For GPU1 ( PCI-E 6pin from 12v5 and PCI-E 8pin from 12v6 )
12v7+12v8 For GPU2 ( PCI-E 6pin from 12v7 and PCI-E 8pin from 12v8 )

You do not want to share anything else on these rails. Disconnect all other devices from power, meaning only do this with the video cards attached and the base essentials. Unplug all your HDD's except the one you are using for the OS drive. Have all case fans and such plugged in and of course the motherboard and CPU plugged in.

Bootup and install the latest drivers. I would also recommend using a driver cleaner like the DDU from Guru3D just to be sure. Give it a shot and then re-add the other HDD's and whatever else you have. Make sure to split them amongst the 12v3 and 12v4 and make sure you don't overload any rails.
 
i had a pc Expert connecting it, and i have tried what you said.

the thing is i have had the pc Expert trying the Cards both of them in another pc with a the same psu, just less hdd only one to be exath, stil the same.
 
My 2x r9 290x uses those 4 rails.

12v5
12v6
12v7
12v8

Graphic Card 1 uses 12v5 for the 8 pin and 12v6 for the 6 pin.

Graphic Card 2 uses 12v7 for the 8 pin and 12v8 for the 6 pin.

just checked, that should be ok?
 
If you've had the "PC Expert" try them in another system with the same PSU then I would say the issue either lies with the cards or the PSU.

Now you've tried both cards on their own and everything seems fine. So I would lean towards it being the PSU that is causing your issue.

I would look in to the heat of the cards while in Crossfire. Remember the DCU II dumps all the heat back in to the PC, I would set the cards up in the first PCI-E slot and the last PCI-E slot to make sure that they are spaced far enough apart for proper airflow. Monitor temps of the cards and report back. I assume you are able to install the latest drivers at least and enter Windows and use the cards for a bit before it BSOD's?

I would look at a PSU with a single 12v rail something like the Corsair AXi series 1200 Watt, EVGA Supernova 1300 Watt, or Antec High Curent Pro 1300 Watt, each will supply anywhere from 50AMPS ( Antec 4x12v Rails ) or 100+ Amps on the Corsair or EVGA.

The last option since you've done everything possible already ( format reload and tried it in another system ) would be to flash the cards with a newer bios. But I don't think that is your issue.
 
well i dont know about that, since my both of my Cards dos it, and i find it wierd that 2 identical would do the same.

As for my psu, is there a way to determine if its low on power through the rails other than changing psu?
 
both Cards is running with the newers bios from asus homepage.
other than that it could be a driver problem that affects my Cards.
 
I am still going to recommend a new PSU or at least try one with more then 40amps on the 12v rail if using a multi rail PSU.

You can try using Afterburner and setting the power limit up and see if it will stabilize.
 
Yes, I have run into this problem too. Installation fails with BSOD at the time the screen is flickering to get the new driver activated, and it only happens on crossfire systems. There are two solutions.

1) Run DDU from safe mode and remove the existing driver. PC will restart into normal mode at the end. Proceed with the regular installation and it should work.

2) The second method, doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I just tried it on the latest 14.7 RC3 and it worked. During driver installation, select custom, and uncheck HDMI-audio driver.

Good luck.
 
I just re-read your post and it seems that the problem happens after installation when you boot into Windows using the newer driver. That the newer set of drivers are unstable on your system. I haven't run into this particular issue.
 
Ye it's after installation and i have used Driver Fusion Premium to remove what is left of the old drives...im geussing driver problem 2.

havent tried unchecking Things like hdmi tho.

i am thinking of a new psu since this one is quite old, still powerfull tho.
 
Wattage isn't everything in a PSU, I learnt that with the Enermax Maxrevo 1500 Watt. When looking at a PSU, look at effeciency, how much power can it provide system components at a stable rate. 25amps on the 12v rail is low now when a device requires 30 to 35amps and needs to be split among rails to properly pull the power required without tripping our burning out the cicuit.
 
PharZyde said:
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i tried both my asus r9 290x Dcu II Cards 1 by 1... it still dos it there, so i dont think the Cards are broken, i just cant beleave that those 2 Cards cant run with anything never than catalyst 14.4 whql.

i tried a fresh install of Windows 8.1 pro Danish version, no luck.

the way it crashes is the screen flimmers like a Picture on tv that isent fine tuned.

anyone havving t he same problem? and a solution?

the crashed comes strangle not at the same point, it can happend when you enter Windows or when you uses Windows for a short time, also it can give me a Black screen.
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I had a fairly bad experience with the 14.4's, myself--I don't use them at all--everything since has been running fine, though. IIRC, the only thing I could figure with the 14.4s was that AMD was around this time switching from wddm 1.2 to wddm 1.3 support, and that *maybe* something got hosed in the 14.4's (check out the 14.4 threads for a detailed account of my experiences.) No such problems before or since the 14.4's. I'd advise using later drivers--or even earlier than 14.4. Very strange stuff with 14.4's. Other people, however, had no problems with them--go figure. Good luck!
 
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