best ocing processor / price

BunK

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im building a new system and i would just like some input from some people as to which is the best processor for me. i need something very cheap but i would like some ocing power. idealy i would like to get 1.2ghz but understand that may not be possible with some slower chips. would the better buy be to get a duron 800 and save some money, or i have access to some cheap 1ghz axia chips still about 150 bucks more than the duron but still within my price range. how far can i expect to get the 1ghz axia?
 
MHz number wise, i think the CeleronII's have the best overclocking potential (Thats just for bragging rights mind you).
Perf per MHz, i have no clue.
 
im aware of how "far" celeron II's can overclock, but the mere fact that they suck as processors is still there. im sure if i could oc one to 2ghz it still wouldnt perform as well as a t-bird 1ghz. as for a 1.2 axia topping off at 1.35 no way maybe with a stock hsf, but i have some rather intense plans for cooling maybe even water or peltier
 
Durons produce more heat

Durons produce more heat

Durons, when overclocked @ the same level as T-Birds produce more heat.

Ex. 900MHz Duron @ 1.1 <--- More heat
900MHz Athlon @ 1.1 <--- Less heat

I'd go with a 1.13GHz, all have 266MHz FSB and cost like $20 more than the 1GHz.
 
Well I hear some with 1ghz AXIA Tbirds hitting 1.4-1.5ghz. Others have 1.2ghz or 1.33ghz and also hit around the same speed. Just if for some reason that 1ghz doesn't make it very far, well you're stuck with a slightly slower cpu. I think all the recent AXIA Tbirds are basically identical other than 1.2ghz is obviously gaurunteed for 1.2ghz. So I guess you have to find the best one with price and stock speed in mind.

On the other hand, I have a 1.2ghz AVIA (which is damn near as good as AXIA) Tbird that won't even do 1.4ghz stable and heat isn't a problem. Just won't work... :(
 
does that mean i should buy a duron, because cooling is cheap. will they go farther with some insane cooling (water blocks and whatnot can be made by me in my basement with a few toys i have) also i have a source of damn cheap peltiers. heat is not a problem, but i want a system that will beat a 1ghz tbird with a 200mhz fsb, where mine will have a 266, can durons be easily bumped up to 266 with few problems? or should i go with an axia and be broke for a few weeks living off grass clippings?
 
if you want cheap, you can't beat a duron. go ahead and grab one. if you want to OC though, make sure you ulock the multiplier. i'd say a 700 would be good. but 900 just came out.
 
well i had a freind confirm that i could most likely hit 1.1ghz with an air cooled duron, he still doesnt believe that i can make my own water cooling, everyone says, ooh its so expensive, but what does aluminum cost? sfa, how about rubber hose? -sfa, a small pump, well electric motors that run off 6v cost about $1, and pumps are extremely simple machines involving 1 shaft, and two valves. the resevoir would be the most expensive thing, (i actually thought of hooking it up to the water cooler on my fridge, but thought that i might want to use it someday, and i like my lan rig, as a lan rig) considering a thermos bottle costs about $5. will i get along fine without a radiator, or should i go to the dump and find an old air conditioner rad? id like to have a stealth system actually, anyone with lots of experience in water cooling plz chime in. this would be my first water system, and while i know basically everything there is to know, i havnt done it before, and ive had problems with stuff ive never done before. (ie removing a broken door from my minivan convinced i could fix it, bad idea)
 
The newest stepping or code of the Duron may be able to hit 1.1ghz or 1.2ghz with water cooling. The highest air-cooled that I think I've seen is around 1000mhz, maybe a tad higher. But if the new Durons are a equivalent to AXIA, then I'm sure you could hit higher.

A equivalently clocked Duron will perform a little slower than a Tbird but not a big difference like a celeron2 to a P3.

And hey... if you screw up your Duron with the water cooling, at least you didn't lose as much money. :)
 
You might hit 266 if you have almost as much power as Christ

You might hit 266 if you have almost as much power as Christ

Not really likely, but you can hit 233 with a Blue Orb for a chipset cooler. You can go insane and watercool it, then you might hit 250. For 266, I'd suggest a Vapochill case but get the cooling out and put it in an aluminum case. The case is too small to work with and it's not the best looking case out there.
 
not likely what?, ive established in another thread that chipset coolers do sfa, not to mention the blorb isnt really that good anyway, it doesnt have any fins overtop of the center of the chip where the heat, if any is produced. get an aluminum case? ive already got a case that i plan to put an enermax 350w into, it has 3 fans circulating air about, with a variable speed fanbus that i built. and as for blowing up my duron, how dare you jinx me like that :) ....
 
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