ATI needs GOOD driver programmers NOW!!!!

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bleagh

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Please, please, PLEASE!!!
Let's help them out and find someone GOOD to help them!
I'm sick and tired of my Radeon 8500 not living up to it's billing!
This card is too good to live with it's sucky drivers!

And not suprisingly ATI seems to have several related postions open!
http://www.ati.com/companyinfo/careers/toronto/engsoftware.html

I just hope someone can help them make my 8500 what it is SUPPOSED
to be! (Otherwise I'll surely be buying Nvidia's next big vid card!)
 
Re: ATI needs GOOD driver programmers NOW!!!!

bleagh said:
Please, please, PLEASE!!!
Let's help them out and find someone GOOD to help them!
I'm sick and tired of my Radeon 8500 not living up to it's billing!
This card is too good to live with it's sucky drivers!

And not suprisingly ATI seems to have several related postions open!
http://www.ati.com/companyinfo/careers/toronto/engsoftware.html

I just hope someone can help them make my 8500 what it is SUPPOSED
to be! (Otherwise I'll surely be buying Nvidia's next big vid card!)
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Exactly what problems are you having with your card? I have been quite happy overall with ATI's drivers for over a year now on every system I have used (both Via and Intel). Please be more specific as to the nature of your problems.
 
You mean SmoothVision has been working correctly on your machine for
a FULL YEAR now? I don't think so! And it still doesn't work like
it should. But it has always been listed as one of the big features
of the card.

Mostly I just want the card to work the way it is SUPPOSED to work.

The only real problem I have with mine is that the drivers lock
the max refresh rate (Windows 98SE) at 75Hz (lower resolutions) or
60Hz (higher resolutions). And this can be fixed by installing a
tweaker or modifying the registery...
Still, it shouldn't need a fix! Strange how the tweakers fix it
automaticly when installed, and that it is fixed with the optimized
driver sets, but ATI cannot seem to fix it!

Sorry, but I'm tired of the neverending wait for things to work like
they SHOULD have worked they day the card was released!
 
Re: ugh

Re: ugh

barman said:
take this to another forum, this place
is for driver discussion NOT driver
flaming

sheesh
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Sorry, but I did not post it as a flame!
If you check the link they really do have several positions open
directly related to drivers! Yes I realize this is likely just to
expand their forces to help with new upcomming products, but still...,
if they get someone real sharp, and it somehow filters down to better
drivers for my old Radeon 8500, then I'm all for it!

I mean imagine, a full featured card with features that actually work!

My first video card was the Nvidia TNT card, my second, and current is
my Radeon 8500. As you can see I don't upgrade very often. And if
ATI can get their act together so I can forget about drivers and just
go back to playing my games... ;)
(If not I may have to upgrade much sooner than I planned, and if so
I'm sure not going with the same company again!)
 
Re: ATI needs GOOD driver programmers NOW!!!!

bleagh said:
Please, please, PLEASE!!!
Let's help them out and find someone GOOD to help them!
I'm sick and tired of my Radeon 8500 not living up to it's billing!
This card is too good to live with it's sucky drivers!

And not suprisingly ATI seems to have several related postions open!
http://www.ati.com/companyinfo/careers/toronto/engsoftware.html

I just hope someone can help them make my 8500 what it is SUPPOSED
to be! (Otherwise I'll surely be buying Nvidia's next big vid card!)
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I've noticed you making a couple of really stupid posts about how "ati drivers suck". Could you please post a fact to support your ideas? Posts like this and your previous post really piss me off. I'm not a fanATIc and I'm not an nvidiot either. I'm just annoyed.
 
Um, maybe you should just browse a few of the other threads...
Things like Ansio not working in D3D, SmoothVision not doing what
it should, having to modify registry or use tweaker to change
refresh rates...

Those are 3 I can think of off the top of my head..., but bet I can
find more if you need.
 
Things like Ansio not working in D3D, SmoothVision not doing what it should, having to modify registry or use tweaker to change
refresh rates...
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alright n00b. time for you to shut up. First off Aniso does work in D3D. It does on my machine, it does on 2 of my friends machines and there are others here that it works for too. That tells me something is wrong with your PC or your drivers.

As for Smoothvision working the way it's spose to. This i can't comment on as i'm not knowledgable enough to know if it's working the way it's meant too. All i know is that it's supersampling instead of multisampling so the performance hit is way bigger compared to the AA Nvidia cards use.

As for the Refresh problem. THIS IS A MICROSOFT OS PROBLEM YOU ****ING N00B. ATI CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. M$ has stated that any driver set that is released with a refresh fix will not be WHQLed (just wish i could find that URL to prove it). For Windows 2000 users this refresh fix issue is being resolved with Service Pack 3. M$ is finally removing the 60hz limitation. I'm not sure about Windows XP. But XPs SP2 is soon to be released so I would guess that the refresh fix would be in there too.

oh and btw n00b. if you think there's a flawless piece of hardware out there you need your head examined. especially video card drivers. I mean look at Nvidia recently. the lovely infinite loop problem. Their amazingly crappy Anisotropic Filtering. and their lack of stability compared to the old Det3 drivers. Granted ATI has had their fair share of problems but they've been doing everything correctly recently but, still NOTHING WILL EVER BE PERFECT AND NOTHING WILL EVER MEET UP TO EXPECTATIONS.

when it comes to computers there is nothing 100% about it. There will always be some system that something conflicts with causing the driver to not work correctly. So instead of playing games all day why don't you go learn about the PC instead you ****ing n00b. Maybe then threads like this won't happen b/c then you may have been intelligent enough to realize that **** happens when it comes to computers so you gotta mother ****in' deal with it like the rest of us.

S1

PS: and yes this n00b struck a nerve with me :D
 
Well to be honest, I still think there is room for improvement in some apps, especially openGL.

And d3d aniso isn't working 100%, at least it don't work in 3DMark2001, but it does in games, so that's not realy a problem for me.

On the other hand, seeing the AVP2 texture corruption still making up it's aperience ...
 
Well to be honest, I still think there is room for improvement in some apps, especially openGL.

And d3d aniso isn't working 100%, at least it don't work in 3DMark2001, but it does in games, so that's not realy a problem for me.

On the other hand, seeing the AVP2 texture corruption still making up it's aperience ...
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Yup, there is always room for improvement but even then stuff will still NEVER be 100% effective.

I don't bother checking aniso and stuff on 3dmark. 3dmark is only and will always be only used for checking stability of a system and vid card. I like the way another guy put it 'stop acting like 3dmark is the holy grail of benching.' 3dmark is a biased, only good for checking stability program. thus the reason why it's called SYNTHETIC benchmark. only the games truly matter.

and as for the AvP2 matter please go read the other threads about that problem. it's not ATI based. it's the damned LithTech engine which makes the problem appear on some systems but not others. My PC has never had that texture problem as many others have not too.

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Skull0ne said:


and as for the AvP2 matter please go read the other threads about that problem. it's not ATI based. it's the damned LithTech engine which makes the problem appear on some systems but not others. My PC has never had that texture problem as many others have not too.

S1
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I read it, but I in older drivers I didn't have the problem, I don't know where to look to solve it.

The good side is AVP2 does run very fast with the R8500.
 
the drivers are fine, they are hiring more programmers to make them even better and to keep up with their promise for for 8-10 releases a year. drrrrr.

As for you, your probably one of those whiny little bastards who cry to mommy and daddy when things don't go your way. Do you honestly even comprehend how ****ing complicated these devices are? God damn, its a mriacle any of them function, let alone function as well as they do. So stop your *****ing, if you sitting at a desk 10 hours a day staring at hex, your bound to make some god damn errors. As for it not living up to its billing, your full of crap. It SPANKS A geforce 3 TI500 (a more expensive card btw) and has more features. It even competes with the Geforce 4 series it certain instances, which it wasn't even meant to touch. So, Mr. Bleagh, either tell us your problem, or get the F-off the rage3d.com forums.
 
I read it, but I in older drivers I didn't have the problem
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How do you know the reason it worked on that earlier set wasn't because it was a bug in the drivers to cause it to seem like it was working right? do you honestly think any video card company would keep a KNOWN issue in the drivers through at least 4 or 5 revisions?

S1
 
Skull0ne said:


alright n00b.

As for the Refresh problem. THIS IS A MICROSOFT OS PROBLEM YOU ****ING N00B. ATI CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. M$ has stated that any driver set that is released with a refresh fix will not be WHQLed (just wish i could find that URL to prove it). For Windows 2000 users this refresh fix issue is being resolved with Service Pack 3. M$ is finally removing the 60hz limitation. I'm not sure about Windows XP. But XPs SP2 is soon to be released so I would guess that the refresh fix would be in there too.

PS: and yes this n00b struck a nerve with me :D
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FIRST OFF n00b, I'm using Windows 98SE!
And last I check Windows 98 is STILL listed as a supported OS for
the Radeon 8500.

Second, this is NOT a windows problem! It IS a problem with ATI's
drivers! Refresh rate works just fine with other video cards, and
worked ok with the earlier ATI drivers till like version 9009 onward!

No, not everybody using Win98 or WinME have this refresh lock problem,
but MANY of us do! And yes the fix is quite easy, but it STILL
requires a FIX! It shouldn't!

Sheesh man, get with the program!
 
oh ok. see only now do you mention you're running Win98SE. I don't see a Sig or anything else stating you do which led me to believe you were running 2k or XP in which case it IS a OS problem. also This is the first i've heard of a refresh problem in a 9x based OS. I gave up using shitty unstable operating systems like that the minute 2K came out. and yes that does sound like a driver problem. so i apologize for that but next time give us all the information not just half of it.

S1
 
ah thx for the smoothvision stuff. makes more sense now. as for the AF i'm not totally sold on that being an ATI driver problem since there are just as many ppl who have it working as there are people who it's broken for. this makes me lean more towards a system configuration problem, wrongful installation of drivers, or something else. It is something that ATI should look at though.

S1
 
"FIRST OFF n00b, I'm using Windows 98SE!
And last I check Windows 98 is STILL listed as a supported OS for
the Radeon 8500."

Which is funny cause Microsoft is pretty close to stopping support for win98SE ;)

Oh, and ive never encountered a refreshrate lock problem on any of the 7 machines ive installed a Radeon 8500 on (with WinME).
 
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