AMD palamino - What you know

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Everyone, please post everything you know about the Upcoming AMD Palomino.
Any links to reviews/stats of it?
Is it socket A?
When is its due date?
how much is it supposed to cost?
What is its motherboard interaction?
etc etc.
Please post anything related to the Palominos in this thread.
Thanks! :)
 
Release date is Q3 so far. It will work in current socket A motherboards. The rumoured release speeds are 1.46ghz and 1.53ghz, each I would think to be at least $250-$270 respectively when they're first released.
 
Facts

Facts

The T-Bird will go up to 1.4 and 1.5GHz, all the chips with a 266MHz FSB and w/ Axia although a 1GHz could be OC'ed as much as the 1.4 can with almost the same cooling. The Palomino will come out in July, Q3 and will run cooler than the T-Bird, but nobody knows how much, but I'd be satisfied with a few *C. It will be @ 1.53GHz. That will be the first Palomino and will have a 266MHz FSB. There will be no Palomino that will be 1.4GHz or anything, 1.53 is the first Palomino. There isn't much info on the mobile version, but it will increase battery life and will be FAST!

All the Palominos will use the Mustang core.

http://www.amd.com/news/virtualpress/roadmap.html
 
I may be wrong

I may be wrong

What is announced is that the Palomino will use the Mustang core, and you all know the Mustang was a canceled project. Samples are being sent out at this time [Q2], so somebody will probably leak some information soon.
 
Pojo, I don't know where you got your info but you're so off it's not even funny... initial Palominos will be manufactured on the .18micron process and will be using a more isotopically pure form of silicon to run cooler at higher speeds. SSE is not added. Caches are not larger. Branch-predication has been improved, allowing for less of a branch mispredict penalty. The passively-cooled palomino you're referring to was actually 900MHz, great for laptops but a different story for desktops. 1.7GHz passively-cooled Palomino, ROFLMAO!!!! man, get your $h!t straight before you just go blabbing every rumor you hear...
 
the palimino's are by no means the end all CPU. dont have SSE, the "hammer" series may have it. they dont have bigger cache. they run cooler, but not as cool as certain intel chips. dont count intel out... April 29, Pentium4 1.7GHz 350$ same price as an Thunderbird 1.33GHz. not good for AMD.
 
sse?!

sse?!

what, are you SURE?

on all the Palomino-news I've read as of yet, they all say that it will have SSE...
 
Ace's hardware had something about Palimino's a couple weeks back. Here's what I remember:

.18 Micron
Start at 1.533GHz
Hardware Prefetch (Improves performance with DDR)
Better branch predictor
Other misc improvements to reduce heat
Other misc improvements for the server chip

Not included:
Longer instruction pipeline
More cache (for Desktop, although server chip may have more)
Larger pipe for cache (ie 256 bits vs. 64 bits)
SOI
SSE or SSE2

They even had some pictures of it. It had a light blue die and was square (more even proportions). This is just to get AMD to the x86-64 Hammer arch. I heard that the Palimino will get a die shrink to .13 at the beginning of next year to increase speed further - the Thouroubred.

Is it just me or are these names getting harder to spell?
 
Pentium4 1.7GHz 350$ same price as an Thunderbird 1.33GHz
Click to expand...

What? No! You can get a 1.33T bird for around $220 now.

We all know how bad P4's do in most current benchmarks too and at least you don't need RDRAM for a Tbird!!
 
Is there the possibility that you missed thr Palomino launch yesteray ? :)
the CPU is now called Athlon4.
While it is only availaable as Mobile version, it will come for desktop and server systems later.

Palomino has 37.5M transistors; TB has 37M
Palomino has increased number of TLBs for L1 Cache (makes it faster)
Palomino has automatical HardwarePrefetch simmilar to P4, this gives the most speedboost.
Palomino needs about 80% the power TB needed (on same Voltage and Clockspeed)
Palomino has SSE (included in 3dnow Professional)

Palomino does NOT have SSE2
Palomino does NOT have improved Brachprediction
Palomino does NOT have more or faster L2 Cache
Palomino does NOT have SOI
Palomino does NOT have the new Silicium

Things like more L2 Cache may change for Server chips..

AMS states using a 200MHZFBS with SD-RAM Palomino is about 5-15% Faster than TB.
DDR RAM could improve speed further, as Data-Prefetch allows better use of available bandwith.
Quake3 is 6% faster with this config (200MHZFBS SDRAM)

NO Benchmarks except those of AMD exist and noone seems to be allowed to post any... although Palomino is oficially released since yesterday.
 
One thing left out, the Athlon 4 is definitely going to be using copper interconnects.

Few other points, for full compatibility, you may need a new motherboard, there are a few pins that were labeled NC that now connect to the internal thermal diode. This is assuming the desktop version is the same as the mobile one. Also, there is a multiplier issue, mb's will have to have bios updates to work around the new cpu, the mappings are different. That's if your mb uses the bios to set the multiplier instead of dip switches, in that case you just have to figure out what pattern means what with the new cpu.

Take with a grain of salt, who knows what will actually show up in the desktop version of the cpu, there is still time for a stepping or two.
 
long article but lots of info .
0516main.htm
 
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