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badsykes

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Today is black friday in my country too and the 380x is the same price as an old discounted (for black friday) 290.The advantage of the 380x is GCN1.2.
I play at 1080p..The 380x is not yet released physically in my country.The card is not on stock and the price is normal.On the other hand the 290 brand new have the same price.
290 advantages .... more powerfull
380x advantages .... newer tech.

I would say the 290 will last longer because higher perf but the 380x being a GCN1.2 may last longer too ...

Any wisdom thoughts apreciated ...
 
Isn't the 380x still in the 7970 performance range?

Get the 290 if you want something that will last for a while.
 
Did you mean 390/x or 380/x?

The 290 is better than 380x, it is indeed faster, but you lose a few features like reasonable VSR resolutions etc.

I would personally go for the 290.
 
There is an old stock of Club3d 290 RoyalKing that is discounted now for black friday so i was thinking if i should wait for 380x or get this old stock 290.
The 380/x series have this performance increase for HBAO and other effects.
380X version (that is the new 7970) was released this days..

http://www.techpowerup.com/


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/R9_380X_Strix/25.html

According to this tables the 290 have the best perf/dollar ratio vs 380x with around 24% ... that's something

Otherwise i am considering the 380 non-X version that is around 45% cheaper than both the 380X and 290...
 
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Hrmm yeh the 380x will be better at a number of things, like tessellation, video decoding and a couple other features, but tbh the 290 will deliver better performance in most current games without question, and I expect that will continue for the life of the card outside of a couple exceptions. I don't have a crystal ball but that's how it looks atm.
 
Going by the tpu review, there's still a significant performance gap between the 280x and the 290 in modern games.


But I have to admit that some of their results are a bit odd, the 1080p results for TW 3 seems too low, hairworks is off and the 970 only manages to get an average frame rate of 38?
 
There is a also a gtx 970 going for 10-15$ more than the 290 and 380x.Is also discounted for black friday..All cards are NEW and non-reference !!

I will put the direct link to the cards on my shops.Look at the numbers you don't have to know the language.

the gtx 970
http://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/palit/geforce-gtx-970-jetstream-4gb-ddr5-256-bit/

the 290
http://www.mediadot.ro/placi-video/placa-video-club-3d-radeon-r9-290-4gb-gddr5-512-bit-royalking


The link to 380x is not available because site is enjoying heavy traffic but it was 1325
 
do not get the 380x, it's a gcn 1.2 7970 pretty much, with extra vram. I mean, 7970 is a beast and aged well, but not something you should be buying new at the end of 2015.

also, if you plan on playing fallout 4, do not get AMD, a 970 will do much better in that case. AMD cards have severe cpu overhead driver issues with that game.

from AMD, the best buy atm would be a 390 as that can actually compete with the 970, while the 290 doesn't quite manage that.
 
demo said:
I would personally go for the 970 then.

970>290>380x imho.
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Why a 970 over 390 for that price range?

IIRC the 390 out performs the 970 for the most part, especially if you are above 1080p resolution (or are using supersampling/VSR).
 
SoCalMX70 said:
Why a 970 over 390 for that price range?

IIRC the 390 out performs the 970 for the most part, especially if you are above 1080p resolution (or are using supersampling/VSR).
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the OP is considering the above 3 cards, i think that's why demo posted that.
 
GanjaStar said:
do not get the 380x, it's a gcn 1.2 7970 pretty much, with extra vram. I mean, 7970 is a beast and aged well, but not something you should be buying new at the end of 2015.

also, if you plan on playing fallout 4, do not get AMD, a 970 will do much better in that case. AMD cards have severe cpu overhead driver issues with that game.

from AMD, the best buy atm would be a 390 as that can actually compete with the 970, while the 290 doesn't quite manage that.
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Fallout 4 should be fine on AMD....

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/...amd_increases_dramatically_with_new_drivers/1

That article only seems to address Fury X, however I've seen a lot of posts of dramatic performance increases on many cards in several discussion boards.
 
GanjaStar said:
the OP is considering the above 3 cards, i think that's why demo posted that.
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Ah right, my bad. Well, I'd still consider a 390 over a 970 (if the price is right). You can't go wrong either way though. I see that he found the 970 on sale, so that might be the ticket.
 
SoCalMX70 said:
Fallout 4 should be fine on AMD....

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/...amd_increases_dramatically_with_new_drivers/1

That article only seems to address Fury X, however I've seen a lot of posts of dramatic performance increases on many cards in several discussion boards.
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nah, in the PC thread for fallout 4 there's a save file you can test if you have an AMD card.

Basically, in cpu limited scenarios, AMD is severely botlenecked, to the point that any nvidia card 770 and upwards, gets higher fps than even furyx.

I've had people with 280x, 390, fury, and furyx test it, and basically, CPU speed and architecture and RAM speed are the only defining factors for the FPS, to the point that a 280x with a faster CPU will get higher FPS then the better cards, even with the fallout 4 drivers.

you can see responses from some people here:

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=403940&page=3
 
GanjaStar said:
nah, in the PC thread for fallout 4 there's a save file you can test if you have an AMD card.

Basically, in cpu limited scenarios, AMD is severely botlenecked, to the point that any nvidia card 770 and upwards, gets higher fps than even furyx.

I've had people with 280x, 390, fury, and furyx test it, and basically, CPU speed and architecture and RAM speed are the only defining factors for the FPS, to the point that a 280x with a faster CPU will get higher FPS then the better cards, even with the fallout 4 drivers.

you can see responses from some people here:

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=403940&page=3
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Ok, so the engine is a dog and the game just came out. I'm sure a patch and more driver optimizations are coming. When you mention FPS dropping, are we talking to unplayable levels? If it stays above 30 at high settings, does it matter? This is a single player RPG, not a competitive online shooter.

Also, unless the buyer is making his purchase to exclusively play Fallout 4 for the foreseeable future, it's a moot point.
 
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At this point Fallout is a fps with rpg elements, so frame rate do matter.

But thankfully there are only a few spots in F4 where the cpu bottleneck is that large.
 
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Mangler said:
At this point Fallout is a fps with rpg elements, so frame rate do matter.

But thankfully there are only a few spots in F4 where the cpu bottleneck is that large.
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After reading a bit more, seems ram is the (or an additonal) bottleneck? Quite interesting if true.
 
It looks like Bethesda is simply pushing dx11 too far, so the fix is either brute force or them tuning that area.

Or people just dealing with it/lowering settings.
 
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