Test drove a Scion FRS

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Which is basically the same as a Subaru BRZ right? I happened by a Toyota dealership yesterday, drove one of these with the 4 cyl boxer engines. It was an interesting experience. I mean, it's a cheap car. It's low to the ground (compared to my current Charger). The automatic shifter did not feel very aggressive at all.

Wanted to get the thoughts of y'all on these cars. Thinking about making my next car something with much lower payments.
 
Which is basically the same as a Subaru BRZ right? I happened by a Toyota dealership yesterday, drove one of these with the 4 cyl boxer engines. It was an interesting experience. I mean, it's a cheap car. It's low to the ground (compared to my current Charger). The automatic shifter did not feel very aggressive at all.

Wanted to get the thoughts of y'all on these cars. Thinking about making my next car something with much lower payments.

Essentially the same car as the BRZ.

Good car (it handles like a dream) but underpowered imo. I know a few owners that love them though.
 
Essentially the same car as the BRZ.

Good car (it handles like a dream) but underpowered imo. I know a few owners that love them though.
I think if this thing had a bit more power, or a lot more power, I would have been a lot more impressed than I was.

Are there any cars like this that I should be looking at?
 
I think if this thing had a bit more power, or a lot more power, I would have been a lot more impressed than I was.

Are there any cars like this that I should be looking at?

What do you want to get out of your car purchase?

Do you have kids or a wife? You currently have a Charger which is a much larger sedan. Are you trying to move away from that?
 
What do you want to get out of your car purchase?

Do you have kids or a wife? You currently have a Charger which is a much larger sedan. Are you trying to move away from that?
No kids, just a wife and a couple pups. We do have a Charger, a much larger sedan. I love my car, but it's big. 90% of the time it's just me, 9% of the time it's just me and the wife, and maybe 1% of the time do I have enough people that I need back seats. So I don't see a need for a sedan going forward.

I'm wanting to move towards something cheaper (the charger was a $40k car), to offset the new MBA tuition payments.

Didn't you just get that Charger?
Got it January of 2014. So yeah, had it almost 1.5 years. I'm not in some sort of a huge hurry to move on, but I wouldn't mind seeing much smaller payments. Especially since last August I decided to go back to school for my MBA and that's really taking a toll.
 
I saw one at the dealership the other day that was in for service, and they had put some sweet wheels and exhaust on it. It looked so sporty, I almost test drove one.

I was talking to the service writer about it, and he agreed that they could use more power. Then he told me about a shop down the road, that had dropped a V8 into one, and how insane that thing was. That I would love to see! :lol:

Edit: I think they did something similar to this in the one he was talking about.

http://frsbrzperformance.com/60-liter-ls2-v8-swapped-brz-brz06/

I bet that thing would be a BLAST to drive!
 
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A BRZ or FR-S with an autotragic??

FOR shame!

:yep:
What I test drove was an FRS with an auto-tragic. Basically going manual is not an option for me. I had one a while back and don't want to again. Auto-manual is alright I think, for me.
 
I think if this thing had a bit more power, or a lot more power, I would have been a lot more impressed than I was.

Are there any cars like this that I should be looking at?

Can you go back and test drive a manual? I can't imagine a slushbox would be good in that car at all.
 
Can you go back and test drive a manual? I can't imagine a slushbox would be good in that car at all.
I can go back and try a manual, but I wouldn't buy it. If I just need to expect that the BRS/FRS is gonna be **** on an automatic then I'll just avoid it.
 
These cars are built for very specific people. Those who want a light, great handling, basic car for simply enjoying driving for what it is. I wouldn't recommend them for anyone other than someone looking for exactly that.

The build quality is crap, the paint is crap, and they have no power at all. Just enough to get out of it's own way, barely. Off the showroom, they handle well enough to be fun, but the tires and brakes are junk if you want any real performance. Everything was done to minimize weight at the expense of comfort. The cabin is super loud. There's practically no sound deadening so you always hear other cars, tire noise, wind noise, etc.

These cars shine when you find that remote, twisty, country backroad or canyon. The car literally dances between corner transitions, and they change direction lightning quick with decent tires and a mediocre peformance alignment. It begs to be abused, and honestly...you really have to run them hard to see what they're about. I'm not talking about just revving it to the moon like some people claim is all the rage, because it will NEVER be fast...I don't care what RPM it's at. But...finding that ultra curvy road and just pounding through the corners...that's where these cars need to be.

If you can't see yourself doing that, these cars would probably be boring. I wouldn't own one otherwise. It would just be another boring Honda Civic going to and from work and the grocery store.

The track, backroads, and autocross is where they shine...

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These cars are built for very specific people. Those who want a light, great handling, basic car for simply enjoying driving for what it is. I wouldn't recommend them for anyone other than someone looking for exactly that.

The build quality is crap, the paint is crap, and they have no power at all. Just enough to get out of it's own way, barely. Off the showroom, they handle well enough to be fun, but the tires and brakes are junk if you want any real performance. Everything was done to minimize weight at the expense of comfort. The cabin is super loud. There's practically no sound deadening so you always hear other cars, tire noise, wind noise, etc.

These cars shine when you find that remote, twisty, country backroad or canyon. The car literally dances between corner transitions, and they change direction lightning quick with decent tires and a mediocre peformance alignment. It begs to be abused, and honestly...you really have to run them hard to see what they're about. I'm not talking about just revving it to the moon like some people claim is all the rage, because it will NEVER be fast...I don't care what RPM it's at. But...finding that ultra curvy road and just pounding through the corners...that's where these cars need to be.

If you can't see yourself doing that, these cars would probably be boring. I wouldn't own one otherwise. It would just be another boring Honda Civic going to and from work and the grocery store.

The track, backroads, and autocross is where they shine...


:D
That sums up my experience with the car. It was loud as **** on the inside. It felt like it took forever to get up to speed. Accelerating out onto the highway was a bit, uninspiring. The interior felt cheap, not bad, just not polished either. Braking felt spongy, but I wrote that off as this being a car with only a handful of miles on it.

But I live in Kansas City, there are no real windy roads to speak of. So going fast around corners isn't exactly an option. I think I'd be much happier with a car that goes fast in a straight line. I don't think I need the full on four door premium sedan experience, but I think I want to find something small, light, and able to get from 0-60 as if it intends to go somewhere.
 
No kids, just a wife and a couple pups. We do have a Charger, a much larger sedan. I love my car, but it's big. 90% of the time it's just me, 9% of the time it's just me and the wife, and maybe 1% of the time do I have enough people that I need back seats. So I don't see a need for a sedan going forward.

I'm wanting to move towards something cheaper (the charger was a $40k car), to offset the new MBA tuition payments.


Got it January of 2014. So yeah, had it almost 1.5 years. I'm not in some sort of a huge hurry to move on, but I wouldn't mind seeing much smaller payments. Especially since last August I decided to go back to school for my MBA and that's really taking a toll.

The new Volt?
 
What car should I be looking at?
I don't know exactly what you're looking for, but the FRS 100% needs the manual box. Remember this is 2.0 liter engine naturally aspirated making 200hp you are not going to get the torque curve to satisfy the auto tranny from such an engine.
 
The autobox isn't bad...but it doesn't cooperate unless you're getting on it.

Drive slowish around like a grandma and the paddles suck like all paddles in an automatic do.
Push it hard and I thought the paddles responded quite quickly without that annoying delay between flicking the paddles and the transmission changing gears.

Its not a fast car, but if your coming out of something with mountains of hp, anything is going to feel like a bike in comparison.
 
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