Nvidia RTX 2080 Ti graphics cards are dying on a lot of users

Your link title literally says "nvidia-confirms-issues-cropping-up-with-turing-based-cards-its-not-a-broad-issue".

Would you expect Nvidia to say anything else? Depending on how many have been sold, and how many have been RMA's or have issues, specially since it has only been out for what.. 6 weeks.. It probably is a broad problem taking all that into consideration. But, Nvidia is going to play it off differently, which any company having this issue would do in their shoes. BTW: Key words to pay attention to is "cropping up" meaning that it is just starting, and the full impact hasn't come to light yet for anyone to call it a broad problem or not.
 
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Would you expect Nvidia to say anything else? Depending on how many have been sold, and how many have been RMA's or have issues, specially since it has only been out for what.. 6 weeks.. It probably is a broad problem taking all that into consideration. But, Nvidia is going to play it off differently, which any company having this issue would do in their shoes. BTW: Key words to pay attention to is "cropping up" meaning that it is just starting, and the full impact hasn't come to light yet for anyone to call it a broad problem or not.

Your conspiracy theory fails because Hardware Unboxed specifically reached out to several partner AIBs and none have reported any broad issues specific to the 2080 series outside of typical RMA. They have their own take on this entire "issue" and I suggest you watch the video in its entirety.

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sounds like the FE mostly and the FE PCB

but partner cards using the same FE PCB are cooling them better so less fails




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anyway it way too late for NVidia

i'm 99.9% sure given the price there are already lawyers working on a class action lawsuit
 
Tom's Hardware Germany analyzed its infrared images of the GTX 2080 Ti reference card to investigate rumors that Micron's GDDR6 packages are overheating, thus causing the errors. Thermal measurements indicate that the M6 and M7 GDDR6 modules could run hot during an extended 100% load. The modules are located directly over internal power supply tracks embedded in the PCB. These tracks run between the PWM nodes and the GPU socket. The memory modules could run hotter than the measurement shown in our image, which is a measurement of the PCB and not the GDDR6 module, due to the high currents flowing through the power tracks embedded in the PCB and heat migration from the VRMs.

We don't know many of the technical details surrounding Micron's GDDR6 packages, but we do know they have a maximum safe operating temperature of 95C. In either case, the symptoms of the failures also seem to support the theory that overheated memory is to blame. Most readers have complained of failures after the cards had been used for some period of time, and in some cases, the cards even work correctly after a cooling-off period. The problems also appear to be more prevalent in partner cards that use cheaper cooling solutions.


https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rtx-2080-ti-gpu-defects-launch,37995.html


Yes I know tom's sucks, but it's in English. There's a french site that found the same thing with thermal cameras.

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.p...leidet-offenbar-an-erhoehter-ausfallrate.html

This is a design failure then, anyone who has an FE card or FE design is basically counting the days down to eventually the same failure. Board partner cards with a redesign that don't have this issue shouldn't have problems at all.

As others have been putting it, these cards are basically the first version of the xbox 360 and it's eventual red ring of death. I would not be surprised if Nvidia's FE cards eventually sport a new PCB design.
 
Your conspiracy theory fails because Hardware Unboxed specifically reached out to several partner AIBs and none have reported any broad issues specific to the 2080 series outside of typical RMA. They have their own take on this entire "issue" and I suggest you watch the video in its entirety.

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What? Not sure where you are getting conspiracy theory from what I said (Your typical twist on what people say that you twist into something that isn't there). Also not sure what video you watched, but they specifically stated it wasn't looking good for Nvidia, and threw out some "theories" on to what could be causing it before saying that. The last 8 minutes had NOTHING to do with the GTX 2080ti, so what was the point in having me watch it? I think you only focused on what you wanted to hear and ignored the rest.. :lol:
 
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You'll be the first to let everyone know.

I never do a block till after 90 days of use
and I don't buy reference cards or pcb's anymore, last time was two 6970's
since then it has been asus dcii's and strix

and this Strix does not need it by the reviews so far
about the same noise on Pref as my 1080 ti strix and I can't hear it much

1080 ti strix
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_rog_strix_geforce_gtx_1080_ti_review,10.html

2080 ti strix
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_rtx_2080_ti_rog_strix_preview,10.html

I would only do water on the 2080 ti strix if I were to buy a second one
 
Your link title literally says "nvidia-confirms-issues-cropping-up-with-turing-based-cards-its-not-a-broad-issue".

Nvidia would never admit it even if it was a huge percentage of cards. Companies always downplay stuff like this.

If it's really the memory that's probably a best case scenario. Worst case would be they're having serious trouble with yields on the huge chip to the point they had to loosen up standards to the point they ended up shipping duds.
 
What? Not sure where you are getting conspiracy theory from what I said (Your typical twist on what people say that you twist into something that isn't there). Also not sure what video you watched, but they specifically stated it wasn't looking good for Nvidia, and threw out some "theories" on to what could be causing it before saying that. The last 8 minutes had NOTHING to do with the GTX 2080ti, so what was the point in having me watch it? I think you only focused on what you wanted to hear and ignored the rest.. :lol:

The point of the video is that they suspected a broad scale video but they admitted they could not confirm this, as board partners weren't seeing any RMA trends outside of typical RMAs. They even stated this could be just a case of "vocal minority". Or any one of the many scenarios outlined previously that you and Hepa stated. The reason there's probably alot more Founder Edition issues being reported is because alot more Founder Editions have been sold, thus will have the higher percentage of RMA issues. But if there is a specific issue with the Founder Editions, then good thing I didn't buy one. :lol:
 
The point of the video is that they suspected a broad scale video but they admitted they could not confirm this, as board partners weren't seeing any RMA trends outside of typical RMAs. They even stated this could be just a case of "vocal minority". Or any one of the many scenarios outlined previously that you and Hepa stated. The reason there's probably alot more Founder Edition issues being reported is because alot more Founder Editions have been sold, thus will have the higher percentage of RMA issues. But if there is a specific issue with the Founder Editions, then good thing I didn't buy one. :lol:

:lol: :lol: you crack me up.. take off the blinders man. This isn't a "vocal minority" scenario, and your video is just throwing ideas against the wall, just as we are doing in this thread, both mean nothing with nothing to back it up. (did you mean "broad scale issue" rather than "broad scale video"?)

BTW [H]ardocp has a poll going on this:

https://hardforum.com/threads/do-you-have-problems-with-your-rtx-card.1970788/

So far roughly 28% show dead cards, BSOD, or other issues with their 2080ti's. But I am not sure how they are figuring the percentages, as they are allowing multiple choices. But, 11 dead cards 2080ti's in that pole, out of what looks to be 80 cards total, which includes 2080's. That is not a vocal minority, but a serious problem as that is almost 14% failure rate (counting dead cards only). If it is only FE cards, then it is a 30% failure rate going by the numbers in the pole as it shows 38 have a FE card.

I will use the ending statement that Hardware Unboxed used, and you can't bring yourself to hear: "It isn't looking good for Nvidia!"

Nvidia would never admit it even if it was a huge percentage of cards. Companies always downplay stuff like this.

The very fact that they admitted there is a problem demonstrates that it is a bigger issue than they are letting on. If the issues where in the "normal" range, we wouldn't be hearing anything from them.
 
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:lol: :lol: you crack me up.. take off the blinders man. This isn't a "vocal minority" scenario, and your video is just throwing ideas against the wall, just as we are doing in this thread, both mean nothing with nothing to back it up. (did you mean "broad scale issue" rather than "broad scale video"?)

BTW [H]ardocp has a poll going on this:

https://hardforum.com/threads/do-you-have-problems-with-your-rtx-card.1970788/

So far roughly 28% show dead cards, BSOD, or other issues with their 2080ti's. But I am not sure how they are figuring the percentages, as they are allowing multiple choices. But, 11 dead cards 2080ti's in that pole, out of what looks to be 80 cards total, which includes 2080's. That is not a vocal minority, but a serious problem as that is almost 14% failure rate (counting dead cards only). If it is only FE cards, then it is a 30% failure rate going by the numbers in the pole as it shows 38 have a FE card.

I will use the ending statement that Hardware Unboxed used, and you can't bring yourself to hear: "It isn't looking good for Nvidia!"



The very fact that they admitted there is a problem demonstrates that it is a bigger issue than they are letting on. If the issues where in the "normal" range, we wouldn't be hearing anything from them.

Vega 64 statistics were far worse than I'm seeing in that ad hoc poll, especially the LC version. Who did you deem responsible for those issues, the card or the user? We know the answer to that.

But let's be real, this is just another bandwagon for you to jump on because of your clear and obvious anti-Nvidia agenda then's been prevalent ever since this thread existed and others before. Why else are you so invested in this, far more than anyone else here including those who own actual 2080Ti's?
 
Vega 64 statistics were far worse than I'm seeing in that ad hoc poll, especially the LC version. Who did you deem responsible for those issues, the card or the user? We know the answer to that.

But let's be real, this is just another bandwagon for you to jump on because of your clear and obvious anti-Nvidia agenda then's been prevalent ever since this thread existed and others before. Why else are you so invested in this, far more than anyone else here including those who own actual 2080Ti's?

I see you have no response other than trying to bring AMD into it, and then turn to accusations against me, which in turn is a personal attack as I have no agenda, I am just talking about the very topic of this thread. Hmm.. let me see.. should I do the "Exposed" method and hit the report button, or should I be the better man. I think I will be the better man.
 
I see you have no response other than trying to bring AMD into it, and then turn to accusations against me, which in turn is a personal attack as I have no agenda, I am just talking about the very topic of this thread. Hmm.. let me see.. should I do the "Exposed" method and hit the report button, or should I be the better man. I think I will be the better man.

As opposed to the well thought out non-personal remark "you crack me up...take off the blinders man"? :lol: It's one thing to be a Nvidia apologist (as you say I am), but it's another thing to be so critically negative that you just drag on with negative comments that your response eventually just becomes straight thread crapping (like your quoted response above). Even the others got fed up with it in the other thread, should we report your posts there too?

You even admit "your video is just throwing ideas against the wall, just as we are doing in this thread, both mean nothing with nothing to back it up" and yet proceed to put forth a conspiratorial theory by Nvidia. Seems to fit the term "agenda" quite well.
 
As opposed to the well thought out non-personal remark "you crack me up...take off the blinders man"? :lol: It's one thing to be a Nvidia apologist (as you say I am), but it's another thing to be so critically negative that you just drag on with negative comments that your response eventually just becomes straight thread crapping (like your quoted response above). Even the others got fed up with it in the other thread, should we report your posts there too?

You even admit "your video is just throwing ideas against the wall, just as we are doing in this thread, both mean nothing with nothing to back it up" and yet proceed to put forth a conspiratorial theory by Nvidia. Seems to fit the term "agenda" quite well.

You know, a quote from Ron White comes to mind right now, as I look at the thread topic, read your response again, take one last look at the thread topic... I am going to just walk away from my computer right now.. as I shake my head in disbelief and amusement with some people's opinion.
 
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guys stick to the topic, aka 2080ti cards dying. AMD has nothing to do with this, so quite frankly i dont want to hear another peep about vega and amd in a 2080ti thread
 
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