It's 2018 and still no 4k monitor with 120hz or 144hz support?

Do you need a monitor or a TV? If you need a TV that acts like a monitor then just buy LG C2 and call it a day.
 
Och said:
I understand the difference between low 24fps movies are shot in, and the 3:2 pull down, but from what I am reading on various sources, the concensus is eliminating the pulldown is taking away from the cinematic experience caused by the jitter. I'm not too concerned with it as I barely even watch movies anymore.

On a side note, the 24fps is only for movies, right? What about regular TV broadcasts - news, sports, shows, etc?
Click to expand...

If I remember right....regular HDTV tends to be broadcast at 30fps @ 60hz and sometimes 60fps @ 60hz for sports.

KAC said:
Do you need a monitor or a TV? If you need a TV that acts like a monitor then just buy LG C2 and call it a day.
Click to expand...

Or a C1 if you want to save a buck.
 
Och said:
I understand the difference between low 24fps movies are shot in, and the 3:2 pull down, but from what I am reading on various sources, the concensus is eliminating the pulldown is taking away from the cinematic experience caused by the jitter. I'm not too concerned with it as I barely even watch movies anymore.

On a side note, the 24fps is only for movies, right? What about regular TV broadcasts - news, sports, shows, etc?
Click to expand...

Jitter from 24fps is desirable by movie buffs, but I have never heard of 3:2 pull down being desirable. In the cinema there is no 3:2 pull down, nor when using movie/cinema mode on TV's. 3:2 pulldown is purely a side effect from NTSC broadcast TV. I'm wondering if terminology is getting mixed up by some of those people.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Och
KAC said:
Do you need a monitor or a TV? If you need a TV that acts like a monitor then just buy LG C2 and call it a day.
Click to expand...

Monitor. Its just whenever i do seldom watch a movie, i tend to watch it through my computer on the monitor.
 
demo said:
Jitter from 24fps is desirable by movie buffs, but I have never heard of 3:2 pull down being desirable. In the cinema there is no 3:2 pull down, nor when using movie/cinema mode on TV's. 3:2 pulldown is purely a side effect from NTSC broadcast TV. I'm wondering if terminology is getting mixed up by some of those people.
Click to expand...

Thanks for clarifying! Sounds like there is no reason for concern then.

P.S. - The cinema mode you mentioned, does it switch the TV in a 24/48hz refresh to eliminate the pull down?
 
Och said:
P.S. - The cinema mode you mentioned, does it switch the TV in a 24/48hz refresh to eliminate the pull down?
Click to expand...

Yes that's right, depending on the brand it could have many different names though, like 24p, cinema mode, movie mode etc. Usually lower end TV's don't have this function, either.

As for monitors, if you get a 120 or 144hz display, it will not have pulldown as 24 is evenly divisible into those refresh rates.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Och
So looks like there is a lot of tech in development, and I am genuinely interested in experiencing 120/144fps gaming, 10 bit color, and now I'm also interested in seeing 24fps movies without the 2:3 pulldown. But I'm thinking it makes sense to wait more for all the tech to mature, at least when most GPUs and monitors support DP 2.0 as well as HDMI 2.1, so its probably going to be at least 2 more gen cycles.

Also, what about OLED screens, are those becoming a thing?
 
OLED monitors are still new. We will get first decent monitor by LG this year - 27 inch 1440P 240 Hz.
You can buy Alienware QD OLED widescreen right now.

There is also future 45 inch bendable OLED from Corsair and LG. Maybe ASUS also.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Och
It's great OLED's are on the way but there's no format I really like. 27" 1440p too small in both size and res, and 45" 1440p too big for that res, but I wouldn't mind seeing one in action. Pixel pitch is the same as 55" 4k, which I find OK, so it may not be as bad as it sounds.
 
I honestly think there are just stupid dumb shits sitting in these companies. All they had to do was make a 32" 4K 120/138 Hz OLED and charge 1200 bucks for it. But NO, that is too much common sense to ask of these a holes!
 
And so after more than half a decade since my last post, I think I have finally decided on the new monitor. I was using Samsung U28E590D both at home and at my office - it is a 28" 4K display with standard 60hz refresh rate. Back in 2022 I upgraded my office monitor to a Dell P3222QE. Very awesome display, 32" with very high quality image display, but still 60hz refresh rate. It doesn't matter because I don't watch movies or play games - mostly CAD and MS Office work. But at home I was still using my trust old U28E590D.

Well, today I just ordered a new monitor for my home PC, Asus ROG PG42UQ. Its a 42" OLED display with 4k resolution and up to 138hz refresh rate, and it seems to click all the boxes from my original post. Not sure if it will allow 4k @ 120hz with 10bit HDR without compression, but it seems HDR is still not a very mature tech, so I probably wont be using it. I intend on setting the refresh rate to 120hz, if my Quadro P4000 video card allows. It has no HDMI port, but four DP 1.4 ports, according to specs it supports 4k @ 120hz, and mentions HDR support. I may consider upgrading the video card to the RTX 4000ADA.

I also upgraded my wife's office PC as well. She was also using an old U28E590D, I upgraded her to a LG 40WP95C-W.AUS - its a 40" ultrawide display with 5k resolution and up to 72hz refresh rate. Not as fancy as my new OLED display, but she only does MS office work, so she doesn't need any of the advanced features, she just needed more screen real estate. I set her new screen to 60hz, because I'm worried at 72hz she may be getting frame tearing when watching youtube videos, most of which are 30/60fps?
 
All in all, I keep wondering if indeed most people treat the monitor at the same time as a TV, I see nothing wrong with it. However, I don't own a TV anymore for many years, I think that projectors are much better in this respect, and price-wise they are also similar.

I currently own a GIGABYTE S55U 55 although I have a friend who has an ASUS ProArt PA32UCG-K 32, and I always wonder what the future will surprise us with, in the coming years. In 6, will we be back to such threads and thoughts again?​
 
Got my PG42UQ, been using it for a couple of days, and while I am generally impressed with the quality it is turning out a bit too big for my purposes. And with the massive 42 size, the pixels become somewhat visible. I might actually return it and get one of the 32" screens.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top