Intel 12x00 series Alder lake

Although we already know this, just placing this here for educational purposes.



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Yeh. I read that not all pins are being used with current LGA1700 though, so it might be a good idea to wait for z790 mobo to accompany Raptor Lake. z690 will still be supported though.
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If that is true, then they saved me the cost of a new CPU block. :lol:
 
So I decided to upgrade my 8700 based system to a new 12700k system. I know the 13 series is around the corner but I have the itch to upgrade now.

I put these together on PC part picker:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YdXHkX

Around $800 is gonna be my range and I only need to upgrade the motherboard and CPU and whatever else required. Don't need a case PSU or even a SSD as I have 3 of them currently and they work just fine.

Motherboard appears to be more expensive than I remember a few years ago, but memory prices have dropped.

These look like an Okayish upgrade path?
 
Doesn't that board only support 2 NVME drives and you said you have 3? I would wait but I know you said you don't want to :lol:

It looks like it will serve up solid RAM performance and deal with the GPU's that are comming up. I would suspect that CPU performance might eclipse it enough to cause problems a couple years down the road but if you plan to upgrade again about 2 years from now then I think it would be fine. If you were to wait you would end up spending more on the everything but it would probably last you 2x as long. most likely 4 years instead of 2.
 
I cannot say how poor of a time it is to purchase, especially buying DDR4. Find your patience and sanity, and wait. AM4 is about to drop, and at a minimum, it will drop prices on 12th gen.

I would NOT buy DDR4 at this stage of the game. The Prime is also a very mediocre board.. can't really say anything good about it besides *it works*

At a minimum, go DDR5 so you have expandability later on. The DDR4 memory controllers on anything below a 12900K/KS are extremely hit or miss.

Oh, and make sure when you get the D15, that you get an LGA1700 mount. If you don't get one with the shipment, you should be able to email Noctua for a free mount with proof of purchase.
 
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high speed DDR 4 will keep up for a few years I think but DDR 4 will be outpaced pretty bad in two years and it will be a major bottleneck beyond 2 years. I have read that DDR 5 may drop in price once these new platforms launch and a large quantity of RAM is released into the market. The market is in the dumpster so we might see some decent prices soon.
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I would not buy right now but if I did and wanted to go Intel and Asus I would buy the STRIX wifi E board for $465. It's 200 more but it would be worth it. Like Nunz said though, everything will be cheaper in in a month or two and much more powerful chips will be available in the same price range.
 
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DDR4 is already out of it's league.

The STRIX board is a joke for $465. For that price you could buy an MSI Unify DDR5 that absolutely obliterates it in build quality and features .. or even go a step further and grab an MSI ACE. Sticking to DDR4, you'd be better off with an MSI Edge WIFI.

ASUS is atrocious this generation. They don't deserve anyone's money.
 
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I guess I will wait a bit longer. Thanks guys :lol:

I have one NVME drive and the other two are SATA SSD's. Only a year old and 2.5 tb among the 3, the nvme is just a straight 512gb windows boot drive and the other two hold my steam/gamepass/epic/origin games.

The Prime is really a bad board? I thought Gigabyte was the one to avoid.

I really don't want to spend more than $200 for a motherboard, because it's just a MB after all. Don't even need wifi tbh. But it should have the fastest chipset for the CPU and decent expandability.

I'm hoping with the release of the 13 series that 12 series will have a nice discount. Or if AMD comes out with something good that's not too expensive I can consider that also, but I really prefer Intel builds especially since the 12 series are quite good.

If there's really a big performance difference between a 13700k and a 12700k especially with DDR5 then I may just have to go that route, but I'm also a cheap bastard these days so not sure how the two will reconcile. :lol:
 
What princess said. DDR 4 Pins are different to DDR 5 so you’ll be locked in to DDR 4 if it’s ddr 4/5
 
No such thing as a DDR4/5 board.

Also not really any boards at $200 or less. There's too many expensive features on the chipsets these days to have prices that low, plus inflation adjustments and high demand.

The D15 coming with LGA1700 will depend on what production date you end up getting. If it's a newer one, then it should have it. If it's older, then it won't. Afaik, it's as simple as an email to Noctua with proof of purchase and they'll ship you one for free.

Gigabyte is the one to avoid, yeah. ASUS is at least functional, but their pricing is terrible. MSI won this generation by a long shot, especially since ASUS halo OC board, the Apex, turned out to be broken from the factory and ASUS had to cancel production prematurely. It was so bad that they stopped doing RMAs and simply gave people full refunds.
 
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Ok thanks, I guess I will revisit this in a month or two when prices (hopefully) come down. I'll also spend a bit more on the next gen chips if they prove to be quite a bit faster than Alder Lake. DDR5 does look to be what I should get as well and forget about DDR4, which is fine if memory and board prices eventually come down a bit.

Back to the cave I go...

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Ok thanks, I guess I will revisit this in a month or two when prices (hopefully) come down. I'll also spend a bit more on the next gen chips if they prove to be quite a bit faster than Alder Lake. DDR5 does look to be what I should get as well and forget about DDR4, which is fine if memory and board prices eventually come down a bit.

Back to the cave I go...
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There's also the new AMD CPUs coming in September.
 
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