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Convert MPG2-HD examples - Part2 (DIVX)

Convert MPG2-HD examples - Part2 (DIVX)

Convert MPG2-HD examples - Part2 (DIVX)

Setup: Record HDTV 720P content with ATI HDTV WONDER card. Export to MPG2-HD format.

What we will do:
We will extract the MPG2-HD 720P content stream to Divx format with GraphEdit and play it with ATI MMC Player.
All of the converted items are tested and playback with no sync issues.

The theory behind converting is simple.
We must split the MPEG2-HD file to video and audio. Convert what we want and re-mux the video and audio to a single file.

Let's do it.

Convert ATI HDTV 720P content to Divx 5 format


Check file



Play new Divx file


Direct Link to Images
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http://img59.exs.cx/img59/9639/check26cc.jpg
http://img59.exs.cx/img59/4311/playbackati9jb.jpg

Original file size: 99,655,680 bytes
Converted file size: 69,264,896 bytes


Greg
 
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I have a Sapphire Theatrix Card and would like to use the Theatre 550 Pro Chip to do
some of the work that software would. Is this possible using GraphEdit?
Would I need to have certain drivers/software to accomplish?

I have a TwinHan VP1020A FreeToAir Satellite Card and would like to pass the stream
through the Theatre 550 Pro chip for 3D combing and to output the final MPEG2 DVD quality file. Is this possible? (The video card I have is MSI NX 6600GT VTD128 (NVidia),
it also has VIVO capablities.)

Could GraphEdit also be used for the FM radio that is a part of the Theatrix card?

Thanks for any help rendered.
 
kotss said:
I have a Sapphire Theatrix Card and would like to use the Theatre 550 Pro Chip to do
some of the work that software would. Is this possible using GraphEdit?
Would I need to have certain drivers/software to accomplish?

I have a TwinHan VP1020A FreeToAir Satellite Card and would like to pass the stream
through the Theatre 550 Pro chip for 3D combing and to output the final MPEG2 DVD quality file. Is this possible? (The video card I have is MSI NX 6600GT VTD128 (NVidia),
it also has VIVO capablities.)

Could GraphEdit also be used for the FM radio that is a part of the Theatrix card?

Thanks for any help rendered.
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I'm testing a Sapphire Theatrix in my new rig right now. I just installed it yesterday, and have just installed the DirectX SDK and doing some basic testing of my rig. I'll be posting some graphedit filter graphs shortly, so I'll be able to answer some of your Q's soon.
 
Using Rage Theatre 550

Using Rage Theatre 550

I do like to try things. The thing I noticed is I do not have the Rage Theatre
crossbar device. I believe I would need this in order to use the Theatrix as
a source for filtering/encoding/decoding. Does anybody know how I would get
it to be installed since I already have the ATI drivers installed.

THEATER 550 PRO TV Tuner Drivers
Version 6.14.10.52
Posted: March 1, 2005
File Size: 3.7 MB
WHQL Certified

I do see some items in the graphedit filters, but not what I think I need to see.
 
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All-In-One-Graph?

All-In-One-Graph?

Looks like you guys are having way too much fun! I'm jealous.

Graph Edit is probably the most powerful Video utility I have ever used. Thanks for all the posts and examples. My girlfriend also thanks you all, for I was able to record her favorite show D-Housewives in its full HD Bloom this weekend.

I am trying to set up a graph that captures OTA HD w/HDTV Wonder, encodes it properly and sends it thru firewire to a JVC DVHS Deck for archive.

Do you think this will be possible with one graph or will I have to capture, encode and then set-up a graph to send to the deck?

Thanks! This forum ROCKS!!!
 
It looks like the key for successful HD MPEG2 re-muxing is in the intervideo filters. Are these available separately from WinDVD, or do I have to buy WinDVD to get them? Thanks!
 
Theater 550 direct show filters (Sapphire Theatrix)

Theater 550 direct show filters (Sapphire Theatrix)

Here's some screenshots of the direct show filters used by Sapphire Theatrix (ATI Theater 550pro) and some working filter graphs should be following soon.
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Theater 550 tuner filter



Theater 550 TV audio filter


Theater 550 mpeg Xbar filter


Theater 550 Capture filter


Theater 550 mpeg mux: audio


Theater 550 mpeg mux: video


Theater 550 mpeg mux: Encoder
 
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kotss said:
I do like to try things. The thing I noticed is I do not have the Rage Theatre
crossbar device. I believe I would need this in order to use the Theatrix as
a source for filtering/encoding/decoding. Does anybody know how I would get
it to be installed since I already have the ATI drivers installed.

THEATER 550 PRO TV Tuner Drivers
Version 6.14.10.52
Posted: March 1, 2005
File Size: 3.7 MB
WHQL Certified

I do see some items in the graphedit filters, but not what I think I need to see.
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Check the post above to see the "ATI AVStream analog Xbar" for use with Theater 550.
 
Sapphire Theatrix View TV

Sapphire Theatrix View TV

Here's a minimal working graph for watching TV.
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*tip*: use VMR9 renderer for simple screenshots of video playback (Print Screen)
 
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Sapphire Theatrix: Listen to FM radio

Sapphire Theatrix: Listen to FM radio

Here's a minimal working graph for listening to FM radio.

Make sure you pick "FM tuner" for tuning mode. I manually typed the FM frequency (replace the first 3 numbers with your FM station frequency numbers <minus the decimal> into the channel box and press "enter" to set the FM station) so it didn't matter that I had "cable" selected for "input" . The Xbar and tuner pins need not be connected, but are needed to change the frequency, tuning mode and connecting the audio in/out pins (to connect the audio pins in the Xbar, pick the audio "output" pin first, then pick the audio tuner-in pin and "apply")
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Sapphire Theatrix: FM radio WAV capture

Sapphire Theatrix: FM radio WAV capture

Here's a simple graph to capture FM radio broadcast from the Sapphire Theatrix. (Edited to fix incorrect filter graph)

Open up your saved filter graph from listening to FM radio (or build a new one) and add the Cyberlink WAV Dest and file writer filters. (Cyberlink WAV Dest should have installed with Cyberlinks' MakeDVD application that ships with the Theatrix card). You'll probably want to monitor your recording, so you'll need to insert the "tee/sink to sink" splitter like shown (otherwise, just replace the sound renderer with the WAV Dest/file writer)

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Sapphire Theatrix: Audio format encoding

Sapphire Theatrix: Audio format encoding

Here's a working graph using the "Infinite pin tee filter" to split the PCM audio into as many streams as you might need for direct audio encoding to various formats (Vorbis, Flac, WAV, Lame Mp3 in this particular example)

21 sec stereo audio stream in my example produced:
WAV file........3957KB
FlaC..............2593KB
Vorbis............451KB
128kbps MP3...329KB

I spent no effort to play with the codec settings. Using multiple taps makes for a nice way to test your encodings over a variety of settings, or formats at the same time.
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DVR-MS file playback

DVR-MS file playback

Here's a working graph for playing back (analog tuner captures) DVR-MS files using ATI (Cyberlink) A/V decoders. DVR-MS is Microsofts proprietary file format (MPEG audio/MPEG2 video in a ASF wrapper) for Media Center Edition captures.
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DVR-MS DTV file playback

DVR-MS DTV file playback

Here's a working graph for DVR-MS DTV file playback using ATI (Cyberlink) video decoders and ac3 filter audio decoder. DigitalTV DVR-MS are a little different than the analog captures in that ac3 compression is used for the audio stream instead of MPEG audio that is used in the analog files. Microsoft uses the ASF wrapper in the same way.

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DVR-MS to MPEG2 the easy way (Cyberlink method)

DVR-MS to MPEG2 the easy way (Cyberlink method)

Here's a step by step method to easily strip the MPEG2 file from analog DVR-MS files easily. Using filters installed with CyberLink programs like Power Cinema that ships with Theater 550 cards and letting Graphedit do most of the work, its easy and the resulting file retains the PQ of the original with sync'd A/V.

Step 1: Open Graphedit and go to: Graph(Make sure "Connect Intelligent" is checked) >Insert filters...Expand the DirectShow filters tree and double click on the "Cyberlink Dump Filter" and "Cyberlink MPEG Muxer" filters to put them into your graph. You'll need to pick a file name and location for your file (use the "mpg" file extension) and connect the pins as shown:
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Step 2: Press CTRL + R and navigate to the DVR-MS file you want to strip the MPEG from (You'll need to use the "All Files" file type to get them to display) as shown:



Step 3: Double-click the file you pick and Graphedit will build the proper filter graph for you to connect to the Cyberlink MPEG Muxer <---sweet:) as shown:



Nothing left to do but play the filter graph, and then navigate to the directory you picked when naming the Cyberlink Dump Filter and playback your MPEG file! Letting Graphedit build most of the graph in this method is fast and simple as long as you don't have a mess with registered directshow filters.

I'll post similar methods using different filters and formats as well. Good luck:)
 
Hey rbV5,

Thanks for the information, I had checked out most of those filters.
The one I might have missed was the ATI multiplexer.
I do not see all the tabs that you do for the property pages that your screen caps are showing.
What version of graphedit are you using? The one that comes with DirectX 9C SDK.
In the case of my PC I have a Video Card with VIVO, what I want to do is pipe the
video out through the Video Card into the Video in of the Sapphire Theatrix.
Can this be done on the same machine. I will be making an attempt at this tonight.
I would like the 550 chip to "VideoSoap" the stream as it gets processed.

If I get it working, I will post the setup.
 
I'm using Graphedit 5.04.00.2904 Build 040709 IIRC it came with the Feb 2005 DX SDK update. Check out the OP for the fix for the filter property sheets, that may be the issue you are having.

Seems I recall someone doing the video out to video in like you describe, I've never tried it myself. I can't imagine it would be anything but poor for anything but trying to capture gaming or something, and then the best you can do is 480i output using VIVO anyway.

Of course now, I'd like to try it out though...because thats what we do :)

Good luck!
 
You know the "Cyberlink MPEG Muxer" is not included with WinXP.
Would be nice to have that filter in WinXP though.
Do you know the name of the ".ax" file used for that filter?

Greg

rbV5 said:
I'm using Graphedit 5.04.00.2904 Build 040709 IIRC it came with the Feb 2005 DX SDK update. Check out the OP for the fix for the filter property sheets, that may be the issue you are having.

Seems I recall someone doing the video out to video in like you describe, I've never tried it myself. I can't imagine it would be anything but poor for anything but trying to capture gaming or something, and then the best you can do is 480i output using VIVO anyway.

Of course now, I'd like to try it out though...because thats what we do :)

Good luck!
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You know the "Cyberlink MPEG Muxer" is not included with WinXP.
Would be nice to have that filter in WinXP though.
Do you know the name of the ".ax" file used for that filter?
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The filter is "MpgMux.ax", it is installed with Cyberlink Power Cinema application that ships with Theater 550 cards, and its also apparently available in the DTV 1.02 from Lifeview LINK If you check the cab file in the DTV distribution, you'll find some useful filters perhaps ;)
 
MpgMux.ax in WinXP PRO (The hard way)

MpgMux.ax in WinXP PRO (The hard way)

The "MpgMux.ax" works but not as well as the Intervideo one under WinXP.

Even so a simple "regsvr32 MpgMux.ax" from the LiveView cab file archive did allow the filter to show up.

In this test case I recorded a PBS HDTV 720P formated show directly to MPG format. No preview mode was used so this is a record only example.





The finished video looked fine and played well. No problem there.
The only thing the filter properties does not look as slick as the MCE2005 version by a long shot. Still it does work well.

Direct Link to Images:
http://img124.echo.cx/img124/4831/mux0014nx.jpg
http://img205.echo.cx/img205/4610/mux0025vf.jpg

Greg

rbV5 said:
The filter is "MpgMux.ax", it is installed with Cyberlink Power Cinema application that ships with Theater 550 cards, and its also apparently available in the DTV 1.02 from Lifeview LINK If you check the cab file in the DTV distribution, you'll find some useful filters perhaps ;)
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