2016 Golf R

OverclockN' said:
I never said anything didn't have turbo lag, they all do. It's not relevant. I'm talking about how they drive in normal city driving not in boost. None of them had the poor throttle response and sluggishness of this R. And Like I said earlier, maybe there is a problem. It could be plugged up with carbon, who knows. If it's normal, it's disappointingly sluggish, that's all.

I'm not a fan of S for normal driving due to how high revs the thing.

And, I'll repeat it again, because you keep mentioning high load at low rpm, so we are still not on the same page. I'm talking low load, low RPM, driving like a normal sane person. It has very poor throttle response and getting it to move at all. It feels like it's all plugged up to me. No clue if it's normal for these cars, and that's what I'm trying to find out.
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Got ya, not trying to start an argument. Just feel like you can't compare apples to oranges. Manual/DSG or Auto/DSG. They all behave different from different gearing and what not.

Maybe I'm totally oblivious to it now and just used to it.

Does it seem to idle smoothly right after you start it up cold? If you can hear roughness/pops in the exhaust tone it's usually a sign of carbon buildup.

I do agree 100% that throttle response driving like a normal sane person is extremely laggy and just not there.
 
It does not idle smoothly when you first start it up. It's not really bad, but I noticed it within the first day or two of bringing it home.
 
Hmm .. I'm not sure we're having the same experience. The traction control definitely is overzealous in normal mode, but it sounds like the torque-vectoring is almost … too strong in your case? I can hit corners hard with the R in normal mode and it still has power through the turn. The Golf R is also the fastest car I've probably ever driven so that can also be why I don't feel much of an issue, compared to the high-torque V8s you are more accustomed to in the Vette(s).

With that being said, I'm not sure if you're experiencing some power loss downlow from carbon buildup. That is certainly possible, and with the mileage on the motor, it's definitely in range for significant buildup, at least in the research I've done on the FA20DIT that I run in my WRX. I've seen pictures of valves w/ extreme carbon buildup and they only had 40k miles on them. Of course, different motor, but both DI turbos so still applicable.

The throttle response is wonky sometimes, I agree with you there. I chalk it up to an automatic being an automatic, even if the DSG is as close to a manual as you can get, it's still doing things automatically without my control. That's one thing I will forever love about a stick-shift, even when I'm complaining in bumper-to-bumper traffic.

Take her to get walnut blasted. I think you may be on to something with the carbon buildup.

Oh, and I also don't like Sport mode outside of areas where I'm obviously getting on it. In Sport, trying to do normal driving, the gears stretch out so far you sound like an asshole driving down the street :lol:
 
OverclockN' said:
It does not idle smoothly when you first start it up. It's not really bad, but I noticed it within the first day or two of bringing it home.
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I can grab a video of mine if you want to compare to. How many miles? I can't remember if you said.
 
Roadhog_ said:
I can grab a video of mine if you want to compare to. How many miles? I can't remember if you said.
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If you'd like to do a video, I'd definitely be interested in comparing the two. It has 48k miles right now.

I'm sure there isn't a significant issue. It still hauls ass when you're really into it, launch control works great, and the car itself is fantastic. If there is anything actually wrong with it after the DSG service, it's likely just carbon buildup. Easy fix really. Otherwise, it's just a little sluggish for the daily routine stuff. Minor annoyance, but nothing more.
 
OverclockN' said:
If you'd like to do a video, I'd definitely be interested in comparing the two. It has 48k miles right now.
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Sure thing! You just want from in the drivers seat or? 48K You could be due for a carbon cleaning. I have half that so haven't really looked into it much.
 
You were right, Roadhog. I figured I'd give it a few days to be sure, but changing the fluid absolutely helped. It shifts up and down far smoother during normal driving now, and the low speed pickup is much better. I don't understand, mechanically, how it affected the low speed pickup...but it's certainly better. It still bucks very slightly downshifting when slowing down normally...but it's well within what I would consider acceptable. Not bad at all.

I have a high frequency vibration now I can feel through the chassis since I got it back from the dealer...but it's otherwise ok. :bleh:
 
I'm so nervous to take my car to the dealer for fluid flush (my transmission drain plug also seems to be seized, so I've given up) because of that very reason. I don't want to get the car back with some new problem. I'm consdering taking the car for a protune on a dyno and having them do the fluid flush for me as well as replace whatever bushing has gone bad in the front-driver side that makes it sound like metal-on-metal clanging when I go over bumps.

Awesome that the fluid change helped! Hope the vibration is a simple fix .. I would lose my mind getting the car back and having more issues.
 
OverclockN' said:
You were right, Roadhog. I figured I'd give it a few days to be sure, but changing the fluid absolutely helped. It shifts up and down far smoother during normal driving now, and the low speed pickup is much better. I don't understand, mechanically, how it affected the low speed pickup...but it's certainly better. It still bucks very slightly downshifting when slowing down normally...but it's well within what I would consider acceptable. Not bad at all.

I have a high frequency vibration now I can feel through the chassis since I got it back from the dealer...but it's otherwise ok. :bleh:
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Awesome! It could be engaging the clutches faster/smoother which would allow it to apply power quicker. Dunno. I just know they are extremely picky when it comes to fluid.
 
So...I've been thinking for the past month of selling this thing. :lol: :bleh:

No idea what I will do with it for sure, but it's a nagging thought. It just doesn't get me terribly excited, though it's an excellent daily driver...that I haven't actually been driving. It really just sits all week (my work commute is 8min) since I take the XTerra to work. I get the Golf out on the weekends when I go somewhere. Once the weather got bad and everything is snow/ice, it's just been sitting. I didn't want to get snow tires/wheels this season, so I parked it due to the tires that are on it right now.

Maybe this will all change when the weather gets warm again, and I can do more things with it.

Didn't really have much point behind this rambling other than it's been on my mind and this part of the forum is slow anyway. ;)

I've considered what I'd replace it with, since I'd be in that boat again, but I'm having a hard time finding a car that I find super appealing. A 2018+ Mustang would be neat, but I've done the Mustang thing before. I've also thought about selling the yellow car and replacing that too. Maybe an RS3 for an all-rounder, or a C6Z for an all motor ground pounder. No idea.
 
Put some snow tires on it and enjoy the car. No wonder you're thinking about selling it; you've kinda crippled it by not getting a winter set.

Continental Wintercontacts aren't super expensive. Get a cheap set of wheels and off she goes. 2018+ Mustang would be neat, but you'll end up in the same place you are now during the winter, even if you did put snow tires on it. The Golf R is a great all-season car.

I ran into the same boat since I didn't put my winter set on the Subaru this year. Went to leave for NY, felt all the ice on the ground, and said "nope, I'm gonna end up in a wall doing 80 on the NJ Turnpike" :lol: So I drove my Malibu.

I've driven the Subaru in some of these 15 degree days. Haven't really had much snow so not much ice, but they've held up surprisingly well thus far. I just take it super easy.
 
Put the Golf R up for sale today.

Torn on what to replace it with if it sells. Cars on the short list are:

1. C6 Corvette (Grand Sport or ZO6 preferably)
2. Cayman S
3. 911 S
 
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Elysian said:
Does the Cayman S still not come with an LSD?
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I'd be looking at a 2009 or around there, and I believe they all had ELSD. I don't hear any complaints about it, but there are also a million nannies working in the background on the Porsche's anyway.

I have a track car, so this would just be a fun driver. Don't think it would bother me either way.
 
Pulled the for sale ad for a while, and then put them back up a month or two ago. Started pretty high and came down slowly over time, and now have a few buyers lined up. High chance it'll be gone this weekend.

First time selling a car privately since I was about 18 and man...it's quite an experience. The 3 people I have interested right now are all out of the area, so it's been interesting sorting everything out and getting them info.

These are people legitimately interested, after already going through the hassle of eliminating all the tire kickers and time wasters. I don't know where some of these folks get their "negotiation" skills from. :lol: It's just mind boggling.

Not going to get a replacement vehicle until next spring. So back to brainstorming different options. :bleh:
 
Nunz said:
How much are you asking for it?
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I started very high at $26,000. I currently have all the ads at $25,000, and that's where a horde of people started contacting me.

Two of the buyers I agreed to do $24,500, but not budging from there.
 
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