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Old Sep 15, 2003, 01:44 AM   #1
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Default Aquamark3 Review

Ratchet has been a busy boy lately with all the benching going on. He sat down with a whole slew of ATI cards and 2 different system configurations over the last week to bring you Aquamark3 performance across just about the entire 9xxx line of cards.

I had planned on adding a bunch of additional commentary to Ratchet's fine article this weekend, but due to a family emergency my weekend schedule, well, didn't go exactly according to plan.

For now I'll just say that you will note from Ratchet's benchmarks that aquamark3 appears to have significant CPU/System dependancies, and for the most part is not shader limited. This will likely be cause for very different performance characteristics between different graphics chip architechtures than we see in other recent DX9 benchmarks.

Enjoy the full article Right Here
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Old Sep 15, 2003, 02:02 AM   #2
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Nice article, Ratchet!
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Old Sep 15, 2003, 02:24 AM   #3
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thanx for the heads up, Ichneumon



Ratchet, just like your previous reviews on Rage3D , well done

(I especially liked your bar graph at the end with the radio buttons to switch between the systems and settings .. nice touch )
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Old Sep 15, 2003, 03:51 AM   #4
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I fixed your link Ichy.

Good article.. I love the way Ratchet presents his graphs.
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Old Sep 15, 2003, 04:43 AM   #5
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Default Re: Fixed!

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I had a real trouble to identify the cards in the graph. Really like the checkboxes etc. But he might have used different colours other than shades of green.
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Old Sep 15, 2003, 05:31 AM   #6
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Old Sep 15, 2003, 05:34 AM   #7
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i hate those graphs. how the hell are you supposed to tell shades of green that are maybe one shade off.
i cant tell what goes to what.
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Old Sep 15, 2003, 05:52 AM   #8
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The bars are in order from top to bottom as they are ordered in the legend at the bottom of the chart from left to right.
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Old Sep 15, 2003, 06:27 AM   #9
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Does Detailed info offer information on what feature / modes inc whether pp is being used in each test?
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Old Sep 15, 2003, 08:06 AM   #10
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Why isn't the Radeon 9500 (PRO) used for testing anymore? Recently a lot of reviewers just use the 9600 (PRO) instead but they are not quite the same!
I think it's very interesting to see the difference between for instance:
- 128Bit vs. 256bit memory -> Radeon 9500PRO vs. -> Radeon 9700 (PRO)
- 8 vs. 4 pixel pipelines -> Radeon 9500PRO vs Radeon 9600PRO

I know the 9500(pro) insn't available anymore in most countries but a lot of people (like me) do own them, especially in the rage3d forum...
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Old Sep 15, 2003, 08:08 AM   #11
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Does Detailed info offer information on what feature / modes inc whether pp is being used in each test?
I've asked Massive what the shader count is pp vs full precision. I should get a response today sometime.
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Old Sep 15, 2003, 08:10 AM   #12
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Quote:
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Why isn't the Radeon 9500 (PRO) used for testing anymore? Recently a lot of reviewers just use the 9600 (PRO) instead but they are not quite the same!
I think it's very interesting to see the difference between for instance:
- 128Bit vs. 256bit memory -> Radeon 9500PRO vs. -> Radeon 9700 (PRO)
- 8 vs. 4 pixel pipelines -> Radeon 9500PRO vs Radeon 9600PRO

I know the 9500(pro) insn't available anymore in most countries but a lot of people (like me) do own them, especially in the rage3d forum...
I don't have access to one anymore. The one I had, I (stupidly) gave to my brother.
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Old Sep 15, 2003, 09:35 AM   #13
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Great review - stunned to see I am mentioned twice

The guys at Massive did a great job as I am happily benchmarking now.

I believe I have now asked about 70 hard quastions and received a hell of alot of good answers - thanks to Alexander and the great team at Massive Development - best of luck!!!

Oh and on a Radeon 9700 Pro AMD 1.4GHz Win 2000 1 GB RAM I am scoring around 23,735 marks

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I've asked Massive what the shader count is pp vs full precision. I should get a response today sometime.
I assume the shader count/instruction count will be the same? Worth checking out though, we all know assumption makes.
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61,473 see sig for details, I'm getting stiff comp from the gamer67 and his 5900u (it OCes to over 620 on the gpu )

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Your links not working Major Slaughter. I wanted to see that.
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