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Old Jun 28, 2022, 09:58 PM   #1
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I mentioned this in OT via the "What's the last thing you purchased?" thread, but I know not everyone reads that.

What I picked up:

- AMD Ryzen 9 5900x
- Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX 3080
- Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus Wifi
- 1 TB Samsung 980 Pro PCIe Gen 4 NVMe
- 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro (2 x 16GB) 3600Mhz DDR4
- Corsair RM850x power supply
- NZXT H510 Flow ATX case
- NZXT Kraken X63 280mm Liquid CPU cooler
- Windows 11 Home
- CableMod C-Series Classic ModFlex Sleeved Cable Kit

I put everything together on Sunday, but the 3080 and cable kit (the stock Corsair PSU cables are so thick) don't arrive until tomorrow. In the interim I plopped in my 2080 just to make sure everything was running right.

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Old Jun 28, 2022, 11:23 PM   #2
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nice rig, that's around what, 2.5k dollaritos?
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nice rig, that's around what, 2.5k dollaritos?
Prices for CPU/GPUs have come down to MSRP or below in USA.
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About $2300 (including sales tax).
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Nice system. Congrats.

You guys that have 32GB of RAM - what exactly are you doing to utilize that? Or just future proofing?
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Nice system. Congrats.

You guys that have 32GB of RAM - what exactly are you doing to utilize that? Or just future proofing?
Well, my prior desktop (a 7 year old i7-6700K) has 32GB so I wasn't about to put in less on the new one. Plus it doesn't really cost that much to do so.

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About $2300 (including sales tax).
thx, as a comparison it would be around 2.9k €uritos over here
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Nice system. Congrats.

You guys that have 32GB of RAM - what exactly are you doing to utilize that? Or just future proofing?
Future proofing. Along with that, large majority of 16GB sticks are dual rank, so they perform better for the average "set XMP and forget it" user. There are very few 8GB sticks that are dual rank that I know of. Single rank sticks can be manually tweaked to perform as well as dual rank but require that manual tweaking; of which 98% can't/won't do.

I wouldn't build a rig in 2022 with 16GB of RAM. Price of DDR4 is cheap enough as is.
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16 GB ram causes hitching in some games. The ones I remember are:

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There were some more but I can’t remember right now.
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Well, my prior desktop (a 7 year old i7-6700K) has 32GB so I wasn't about to put in less on the new one. Plus it doesn't really cost that much to do so.

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Future proofing. Along with that, large majority of 16GB sticks are dual rank, so they perform better for the average "set XMP and forget it" user. There are very few 8GB sticks that are dual rank that I know of. Single rank sticks can be manually tweaked to perform as well as dual rank but require that manual tweaking; of which 98% can't/won't do.

I wouldn't build a rig in 2022 with 16GB of RAM. Price of DDR4 is cheap enough as is.
Yeah the price increase going from 16GB to 32GB is definitely reasonable, not too bad. Just checking Newegg looks like on average price delta is about 25-50% for double the capacity. But even still, skimming through benchmarks videos there seems to be no performance difference in any games. I don't see much point if there's no discernible difference for my use case. That's just me but yeah, I can see for future proofing might be worthwhile going with 32GB if you don't plan to upgrade for a long time.

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BFV
COD MW
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Borderlands 3
Assassin’s Creed Odyssey
Crew 2

There were some more but I can’t remember right now.
Is this just your personal experience, or did you see articles/videos that did benchmarks showing this? Did you personally have the issue with 16GB, and when upgrading to 32GB the hitching went away?

I just played AC: Odyssey and it was smooth my whole playthrough. Didn't play the other games.
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Yeah the price increase going from 16GB to 32GB is definitely reasonable, not too bad. Just checking Newegg looks like on average price delta is about 25-50% for double the capacity. But even still, skimming through benchmarks videos there seems to be no performance difference in any games. I don't see much point if there's no discernible difference for my use case. That's just me but yeah, I can see for future proofing might be worthwhile going with 32GB if you don't plan to upgrade for a long time.
There are performance differences between SR and DR, especially in min FPS/1% lows. 3600CL16 SR is slower than 3600CL16 DR, for example. If you already have SR, it's not worth the cost to upgrade specifically for dual rank, though. If you're on SR, I'd look into learning how to OC your memory; tightening your refresh interval specifically will make the difference negligible.
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There are performance differences between SR and DR, especially in min FPS/1% lows. 3600CL16 SR is slower than 3600CL16 DR, for example. If you already have SR, it's not worth the cost to upgrade specifically for dual rank, though. If you're on SR, I'd look into learning how to OC your memory; tightening your refresh interval specifically will make the difference negligible.
But what kind of performance differences are you talking about? If you mean less than 10%, that's completely not worth my time at all considering my system is complete overkill for everything I'm using it for right now as it is.

It just sounds like splitting hairs. Or, something one who is more interested in getting the most performance possible out of their hardware as a hobby would care about.
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Is this just your personal experience, or did you see articles/videos that did benchmarks showing this? Did you personally have the issue with 16GB, and when upgrading to 32GB the hitching went away?

I just played AC: Odyssey and it was smooth my whole playthrough. Didn't play the other games.
No issues here either.
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But what kind of performance differences are you talking about? If you mean less than 10%, that's completely not worth my time at all considering my system is complete overkill for everything I'm using it for right now as it is.

It just sounds like splitting hairs. Or, something one who is more interested in getting the most performance possible out of their hardware as a hobby would care about.
Definitely not splitting hairs, even if it's 10% or less, but that's fine. If your system does what you need it to do, then carry on
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Definitely not splitting hairs, even if it's 10% or less, but that's fine. If your system does what you need it to do, then carry on


Also, to be clear I'm not bashing trying to get the most performance you can. I know people enjoy that pursuit and its a hobby all its own.
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FWIW 4 x 8GB SR sticks will perform the same as 2 x 16GB DR sticks, at the same frequency and timings.

So as an upgrade, you could install another 2 x 8 GB sticks in your system for 32GB total [4x8] and achieve the same performance as a 32GB DR set [2x16].
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FWIW 4 x 8GB SR sticks will perform the same as 2 x 16GB DR sticks, at the same frequency and timings.

So as an upgrade, you could install another 2 x 8 GB sticks in your system for 32GB total [4x8] and achieve the same performance as a 32GB DR set [2x16].
Very true, though 4x sticks is the most stressful scenario for the IMC.
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Yeah the price increase going from 16GB to 32GB is definitely reasonable, not too bad. Just checking Newegg looks like on average price delta is about 25-50% for double the capacity. But even still, skimming through benchmarks videos there seems to be no performance difference in any games. I don't see much point if there's no discernible difference for my use case. That's just me but yeah, I can see for future proofing might be worthwhile going with 32GB if you don't plan to upgrade for a long time.



Is this just your personal experience, or did you see articles/videos that did benchmarks showing this? Did you personally have the issue with 16GB, and when upgrading to 32GB the hitching went away?

I just played AC: Odyssey and it was smooth my whole playthrough. Didn't play the other games.
Personal experiences. I don’t need benchmarks as my computer is fast enough.
Yes, post upgrade the hitching went away. I am used to playing with fps counters on so I could see the frame rate drops even for a second or less. COD games are worst offenders imo especially when you crank everything up.
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Personal experiences. I don’t need benchmarks as my computer is fast enough.
Yes, post upgrade the hitching went away. I am used to playing with fps counters on so I could see the frame rate drops even for a second or less. COD games are worst offenders imo especially when you crank everything up.
Sounds like placebo to me but hey whatever. If you felt going to 32GB helped then that's good.

The only recent CoD I played was WWII and performance for me was excellent the whole way through with everything at max.
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No it’s not placebo.
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The 3080 came in yesterday as well as my Cablemod PSU cables. After getting things nice and tidy I tested a few games.

HUGE difference in games like Cyberpunk 2077 and Watchdog Legions with RTX/raytracing on. At higher resolution it is a night and day difference.

I was also happy to be able to utilize [email protected] with HDR and G-Sync on my LG CX.
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We have almost the same specs Great rig, congrats !
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HUGE difference in games like Cyberpunk 2077 and Watchdog Legions with RTX/raytracing on. At higher resolution it is a night and day difference.

I was also happy to be able to utilize [email protected] with HDR and G-Sync on my LG CX.
Oh yeah, CP looks amazing with all RT enabled.
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