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Old Nov 12, 2019, 09:51 PM   #1
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"We could see the Nvidia RTX 3080, Nvidia’s next generation flagship graphics card, at Computex 2020 in June, according to new rumors.

This would apparently follow a launch of Nvidia’s new 7nm Ampere architecture in March, around the time of Nvidia’s GPU Technology Conference (GTC) event in San Jose.

According to an analyst (Chris Caso of Raymond James), Nvidia has pushed back the launch of its Ampere graphics cards because of how well its current crop of Turing GPUs, including the RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti, are doing – especially when it comes to performance versus AMD’s graphics cards.

While Nvidia certainly has the performance edge at the moment, AMD has made it clear that it’s building an ‘Nvidia killer’ graphics card that will launch in mid-2020. By launching its new generation of Ampere GPUs in March, Nvidia could be landing a pre-emptive blow to AMD’s high-end plans."

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I'm ready for a new card. I would have jumped on the 2080Ti, but $1300 for 30% and RTX which wouldn't even be playable at my resolution was a no go for me. I'm hoping they deliver this time around.
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I don't know if i agree with that analyst based on Nvidia dropping down to 68 percent discrete share. Amd is slowly gaining ground by gaining in discrete and retaken overall gpu share from Nvidia. Third quarter numbers may change things. I don't think a delay has anything to do with great rtx sales because the Nvidia market share numbers don't back them up.
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Execution and talented engineering brings many advantages.

The ceo is going to market Nvidia to the extreme but would like to see if Amd can gain some discrete and overall gpu share from Nvidia when the third quarter share numbers are in. The 5700 and 5700xt are strong competitors to the 2060, 2060 super and the 2070 super even without dedicated raytracing hardware.

What's amazing from Nvidia is their margins, good grief they're impressive.
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Make money for his company is bleh? Isn't that what a CEO is supposed to do?
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Make money for his company is bleh? Isn't that what a CEO is supposed to do?
and you haven't updated your specs to 2080 ti why ?


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don't mind them making money on their cards

but the RTX prices can only be described as profiteering because AMD had nothing even close they could get away with it


and I bought one

and the 3080 ti will be just as high priced
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Amd is charging 399 for a chip that is around the size of the rx 580. One can argue this is premium profiteering as well. The market sets pricing.
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Amd is charging 399 for a chip that is around the size of the rx 580. One can argue this is premium profiteering as well. The market sets pricing.
the 5700 xt is 7nm and that is new and more expensive and it dose beet the same priced RTX 2060 supper

RTX 2080 ti and all the RTX cards are on a well used cheaper optimized 14nm and only 30% faster than a 1080 ti


and still not a lot of RTX games out or as many as they said there would be in well over a year
RTX could still lose to one of the other RT systems
………..
maybe we will see if AMD does do premium profiteering as well if they get a MCM out first that is faster than a 2080 ti
with Ryzen and infinity fabric they do have the advantage over NV in that

if they do do you think they will price it at the same price as a 2080 ti ?

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June 2020? Can’t wait that long.

Please don’t make me upgrade to Turing.
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Highly likely I will be skipping the 3080 series. With the PS5 coming next year - that will be my big "upgrade". This 2080 Ti and 3900X are serving me just fine at 3440x1440.
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I was boycotting the prices for some time but can't anymore, it's just too beautiful to play almost everything 2x2 supersampled (DSR) and, for older games add 2x or 4x sgssaa on top heh and I need as much power as I can get. So, not going to lie to myself, while it's going to be sth like 3070 for me probably, a TI is not completly out of the question now. A good month, a gracious wife and who knows what might happen heh.
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Waiting for the MCM card in 2021.

My Sixtuple SLI is doing just fine.
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First 3 months are pretty dead in terms of any high profile games. First game to possibly challenge 1080 Ti at 1440P is coming in April.
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I'm not trusting the 50% performance increase because you drop to 7NM. Vega7 never saw a 50% performance increase when it went 7NM.

The only way we'd get a 50% performance increase on Ampere is if Nvidia is scared of Intel entering the market. But from the rumors on Intel's side is performance of its first gen DGPU will be very very poor. AMD has nothing coming anytime soon and then after Ampere we have the MCM GPU that is rumored to already be in the labs.

My guess we see a 25% performance increase over Turring, halve the power needed due to the new design.

Its all going to come down to pricing. If Nvidia prices itself out of the market then that won't be good. I could see them dropping prices because of a second competitor entering the market with Intel, but if rumors are true then its not much of a competition again...
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25% would be a reasonable increase. Of course, we'd all like 50%.

It would be a great upgrade either way for 1080Ti owners.
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it maybe the normal 30% performance increase in normal stuff and 50% in RTX stuff


and a 25% price increase over Turring
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25% would be a reasonable increase. Of course, we'd all like 50%.

It would be a great upgrade either way for 1080Ti owners.
It would be a even greater upgrade for 1660ti owners too . God I can't wait for the 3080/ti to release.
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I'm wondering if it will be barely faster than the 2080 Ti in normal rasterization (like 10%), and then way faster in RTX. If they keep sacrificing a ton of the die for RTX processing, then general graphics performance can't increase much. But RTX is just too slow on the 2000 series, so they really need to bump it up.

I wonder if the 50% figure is referring to RTX. Frankly even then it's not going to be in-line with normal rasterization performance, although it will be getting closer.
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But RTX is just too slow on the 2000 series, so they really need to bump it up.
I don't know if I agree with that. Most RTX games I've played at my res have been 90 FPS+ with RTX enabled.
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I don't know if I agree with that. Most RTX games I've played at my res have been 90 FPS+ with RTX enabled.
well without dlss at 4k in most things with ray tracing is 40 to 45 FPS

and with dlss it is not really 4k (not really a big fan of dlss so far at 4k)

most non RTX games are fine at 4k with a top end 2080 ti so 20% to 30% for cyberpunk 2077 (and other new games) should be fine for non RTX side

but the RTX side is going to need a 50% to 75% boost to run at full 4k and to run the RTX in cyberpunk 2077 if it does have it
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well without dlss at 4k in most things with ray tracing is 40 to 45 FPS

and with dlss it is not really 4k (not really a big fan of dlss so far at 4k)

most non RTX games are fine at 4k with a top end 2080 ti so 20% to 30% for cyberpunk 2077 (and other new games) should be fine for non RTX side

but the RTX side is going to need a 50% to 75% boost to run at full 4k and to run the RTX in cyberpunk 2077 if it does have it
I did say at my res Bill, I'm not dumb enough to play @ 4K.
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It would be a even greater upgrade for 1660ti owners too . God I can't wait for the 3080/ti to release.
Like anything it should depend on the price/performance ratio but some people will always pay whatever it costs for the best performing card. Early adopters get screwed in every market I'm afraid that's the way of the world.
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I did say at my res Bill, I'm not dumb enough to play @ 4K.
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well there is no reason at all for a 3080 ti .

for the low resolution peasants
hell the console peasants will be at 4k this year


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