Help? New AMD drivers kill windows startup.

SubCog · Dec 7, 2021, 11:31 PM

Installed the new Radeon drivers (10.12) and now windows doesn't boot.

I can boot into safe-mode, uninstall the graphics driver, and then start windows properly. But then if I install the AMD drivers, the computer runs fine until I restart, and then it won't boot windows.

I've tried cleaning the AMD drivers and starting from scratch. Still the same results. Windows is telling me it hasn't bothered to keep any restore states.

Ideas?

luxor · Dec 8, 2021, 06:08 AM

Is it just the latest version of the drivers that are causing problems?

Meteor_of_War · Dec 8, 2021, 10:00 AM

By cleaning the drivers I assume you mean you used Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU)? That would be my first suggestion.

I would also try using a different (previous) driver version and see if it does the same. Also make sure to load optimized defaults in BIOS.

I think I remember a recent Jayztwocents video where he was diagnosing a similar issue. Turned out that the card itself was damaged.

I think this is the video if you want to see:

SubCog · Dec 8, 2021, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luxor

Is it just the latest version of the drivers that are causing problems?

Nope, I just tried some old drivers from August, and still have the problem.

SubCog · Dec 8, 2021, 07:16 PM

Looks like windows starts up fine if I "disable driver signature enforcement." Definitely a driver issue somewhere.

SubCog · Dec 8, 2021, 08:11 PM

I've cleaned my drivers with DDU. Problem still persists.

I tried another GPU, just to make sure it's not that. I popped in an old Radeon 280, and got the same problems.

Meteor_of_War · Dec 8, 2021, 08:46 PM

Rather than wasting anymore time I'd consider just doing a fresh Windows reinstall.

**Trunks0** · Dec 9, 2021, 05:03 PM

Check Event Viewer. Likely that whatever is happening will show up there. If it's driver related, it may not actually be the Radeon drivers, it could something else conflicting with them.

Running SFC /scannow from cmd might be a good idea as well.

SubCog · Dec 11, 2021, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trunks0

Running SFC /scannow from cmd might be a good idea as well.

Well geez, that seems to have fixed it! Thanks!

I'm going to install the newest AMD drivers again, and cross my fingers.

--edit: new drivers installed, working fine.

**Trunks0** · Dec 12, 2021, 01:49 AM

Awesome, glad it worked out. That cmd is pretty damn handy when Windows gets a little messed up like that

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Dec 8, 2021, 10:00 AM	#3
Meteor_of_War USA-holes Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 26,948	By cleaning the drivers I assume you mean you used Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU)? That would be my first suggestion. I would also try using a different (previous) driver version and see if it does the same. Also make sure to load optimized defaults in BIOS. I think I remember a recent Jayztwocents video where he was diagnosing a similar issue. Turned out that the card itself was damaged. I think this is the video if you want to see: __________________ =::GameValueNow Collection Tracker::= =::Steam::=

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Dec 8, 2021, 06:08 AM	#2
luxor Mendoza Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hull, Québec Posts: 2,872	Is it just the latest version of the drivers that are causing problems?

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Meteor_of_War USA-holes Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 26,948	Rather than wasting anymore time I'd consider just doing a fresh Windows reinstall. __________________ =::GameValueNow Collection Tracker::= =::Steam::=

Dec 9, 2021, 05:03 PM	#8
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 21,354	Check Event Viewer. Likely that whatever is happening will show up there. If it's driver related, it may not actually be the Radeon drivers, it could something else conflicting with them. Running SFC /scannow from cmd might be a good idea as well. __________________ -Trunks0 not speaking for all and if I am wrong I never said it. (plz note that is meant as a joke) System: Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro - AMD Ryzen 7 5800x - Noctua NH-D15S chromax.Black - 32gb of G.Skill Trident Z NEO - Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD±RW - Samsung 850 Evo 250Gib - 4TiB Seagate - XFX MERC 308 Radeon RX 6600XT - Creative AE-5 Plus - Windows 10 64-bit

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Dec 12, 2021, 01:49 AM	#10
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 21,354	Awesome, glad it worked out. That cmd is pretty damn handy when Windows gets a little messed up like that __________________ -Trunks0 not speaking for all and if I am wrong I never said it. (plz note that is meant as a joke) System: Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro - AMD Ryzen 7 5800x - Noctua NH-D15S chromax.Black - 32gb of G.Skill Trident Z NEO - Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD±RW - Samsung 850 Evo 250Gib - 4TiB Seagate - XFX MERC 308 Radeon RX 6600XT - Creative AE-5 Plus - Windows 10 64-bit

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