Once again for the upteenth time, college ed is expensive...pron.

[Nunz]

Originally Posted by aop

It's pretty clear she is insane.

Cutting yourself = insanity?

She's proven she is intelligent, albeit made poor choices in her childhood by cutting herself. I don't think anything she's done or said has shown signs of insanity though.

[Munkus]

Originally Posted by aop

Lets see:
-she is 18
-she said she stopped cutting herself 5 years ago
Those points combined mean that she was cutting herself up to age 13. Child neglect anyone?

It's pretty clear she is insane.

Could be bad parenting, but most likely just bad choices caused by emotional instability. With some kids, the best a parent can hope for is to help them reach adulthood in one piece.

[**G.I.BRO**]

She definitely has pointy elbows... no thanks.

Obviously there wasnt something right at home, communication must have broke down somewhere. Whos fault, who knows. Both maybe. Parents not seeing the signs as she made bad decisions. Is she mentally unstable, hard to say but i doubt that. I don't expect her to be in a normal relationship until she passes this phase or takes control of her emotions. If she's resorting to pRon just because its helps with the bills, then so be it. Its her choice. F*ck, if men got paid the same amount id probably would have entertained that idea as well.

[Akumajo]

Originally Posted by pink_pants

It is interesting how men are able to disassociate the supposed disgustingnesss of porn from their own viewing of it.

I was mentioning how I watched a few pornographic industry documentaries.

The vast majority of directors and producers are men, nearly very little men of color and likewise for women.

These guys despite what people say that it objectified women, it really exploits men.

Gives noob viewers a lot of idiotic ideas like women are supposed to always scream or moan or...cartoon character stuff...the pov is honestly emasculating men, there's nothing erotic just a lot of random people randomly having sex.

She's also claiming to feel or be empowered, it gives a whole new meaning to what she is trying or doing.

I honestly think she should consider becoming a director or producer instead of a pornstar...

Originally Posted by Chuck

She doesn't look 18.

That's what they all say...then someone made a store called forever 21.

Originally Posted by Munkus

Why is it the parents' fault?

Mainly from the little I saw of "the view" interview.

She stated "...like every one I started watching porn at the age of 12"

She stated that on the View, a prime time magnifying glass of clusterfark shatstorm brewery.
Then we find the whole"cutting" thing which imho has to do with either something that happened or major self inage, insecurity complex. Or she may have felt unattractive in her circle of class mates, neighbors and seems to shed light on why she chose such a far away and expensive school.

Originally Posted by Zero

Well if she says "**** me, daddy" a lot, that would point to lack of fatherly affection most likely. Having never watched any of her vids with sound on, I am unable to verify.

Why don't you try then...its posted somewhere a detailed interview of what she said...goes for a while debating porn.its mostly talking so you will have plenty of reading material.

[Akumajo]

Originally Posted by Munkus

Could be bad parenting, but most likely just bad choices caused by emotional instability. With some kids, the best a parent can hope for is to help them reach adulthood in one piece.

Originally Posted by **G.I.BRO**

She definitely has pointy elbows... no thanks.

Obviously there wasnt something right at home, communication must have broke down somewhere. Whos fault, who knows. Both maybe. Parents not seeing the signs as she made bad decisions. Is she mentally unstable, hard to say but i doubt that. I don't expect her to be in a normal relationship until she passes this phase or takes control of her emotions. If she's resorting to pRon just because its helps with the bills, then so be it. Its her choice. F*ck, if men got paid the same amount id probably would have entertained that idea as well.

The funny thing about this subject is that we are able to see her taking center stage...where she may also be facing vultures ready to make scapegoat or blame games while we are not seeing the unknown number of so called college age students that are also either in porn or stripping or more covertly escorts or "sugar babies".

She is already of age and great advantage in education...but besides the cutting, she is also perhaps getting a lot more attention...I don't even want to think if its that she wants to be famous.

[g-a-m-e]

rofl you guys are making this so complicated and deep, while the truth is that the girl is just a whore and tries to make up an excuse for it

[Nunz]

Originally Posted by g-a-m-e

rofl you guys are making this so complicated and deep, while the truth is that the girl is just a whore and tries to make up an excuse for it

lol how many women have you slept with?

Nvm, you're beta.. Probably no more than 2 anyway.

[MasterGoa]

Originally Posted by Akumajo

a prime time magnifying glass of clusterfark shatstorm brewery.

Quoted just because

[MasterGoa]

Originally Posted by g-a-m-e

rofl you guys are making this so complicated and deep, while the truth is that the girl is just a whore and tries to make up an excuse for it

I think that fascination with this story is that she
seems to have a very capable brain and that pron
is usually seen as a very last resort for people...
At least it is, on those casting couches...

[Munkus]

Originally Posted by Akumajo

The funny thing about this subject is that we are able to see her taking center stage...where she may also be facing vultures ready to make scapegoat or blame games while we are not seeing the unknown number of so called college age students that are also either in porn or stripping or more covertly escorts or "sugar babies".

She is already of age and great advantage in education...but besides the cutting, she is also perhaps getting a lot more attention...I don't even want to think if its that she wants to be famous.

[Munkus]

Originally Posted by g-a-m-e

rofl you guys are making this so complicated and deep, while the truth is that the girl is just a whore and tries to make up an excuse for it

I'm sorry you didn't make it past the casting couch, but don't be hatin' on those who did.

[Zero]

Originally Posted by MasterGoa

I think that fascination with this story is that she
seems to have a very capable brain and that pron
is usually seen as a very last resort for people...
At least it is, on those casting couches...

Given the amount of money girls can easily make in porn, it's pretty illogical to assume it's a worst case scenario. Or maybe just a reflection of antiquated public morals.

[Akumajo]

Originally Posted by MasterGoa

Quoted just because

yeah I happened to see a snippet of the View interview and remembered what that audience really is... its almost like throwing christians into the lions pit...or what they tried to do with her basically or perhaps what they may be trying to imply or do with porn.

Originally Posted by MasterGoa

I think that fascination with this story is that she
seems to have a very capable brain and that pron
is usually seen as a very last resort for people...
At least it is, on those casting couches...

Yeah that is pretty much part of whats going on, that the usual stereotype for "women in the jizz biz" is troubled or attention seeking or family issues, like its impossible for a middle class or upper middle class and well educated 18 year old to actually go in there like she was landing on D-Day Omaha Beach and take out the machine gun towers by herself.

Originally Posted by g-a-m-e

rofl you guys are making this so complicated and deep, while the truth is that the girl is just a whore and tries to make up an excuse for it

You could try to say that...but you are not paying attention to the interviews...or seem to be aware of the documentaries before that...or the double standards...

You know Ron Jeremy had college degrees or the opportunity to go to some expensive colleges back then...but one of his girl friends encouraged him to pose for Playgirl and then he became a legend, a real natural one and very intelligent one...not just some dude with a big clock.

Originally Posted by Zero

Given the amount of money girls can easily make in porn, it's pretty illogical to assume it's a worst case scenario. Or maybe just a reflection of antiquated public morals.

Well, its always the idea that girls are paid for their looks mainly fitting some type of image or fantasy, then if she has exotic looks...or average girl next door looks even, then age obsession thing...but not to generalize too much but the whole morals thing is a very hypocrisy filled one...it did occur to me that when they were interviewing her a lot they were basically saying "hey there conservative thinking guys, there's this new girl...go check out her stuff...then after....then complain if you want...but make sure you check it out"

[Redeemed]

Originally Posted by MasterGoa

Quoted just because

Totally missed this gem! Sigged.

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by Zero

Or maybe just a reflection of antiquated public morals.

You see, that's exactly what I don't get about the new set of morals thing. So it's fine to sleep around however you want because we all live in a "free" society? How then is the widespread of STDs (herpes, HPV, etc..) a reflection of the ideal way to indulge in your sexual urges with multiple people?

Whatever happened to traditional family values? I don't hate you Zero far from it but man.... people nowadays make me sick.

[Zero]

The morals were the same back then, we just bullshitted more about them in public.

Also don't confuse a free society with unsafe sex.

Traditional family values are fine if you want a family. Not everyone does. Society changes over time, recent generations have been pushing family later into life.

People only make you sick because they don't conform to the limited perspective and exigent expectations you place on them. *shrug*

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by Zero

The morals were the same back then, we just bullshitted more about them in public.

Also don't confuse a free society with unsafe sex.

Traditional family values are fine if you want a family. Not everyone does. Society changes over time, recent generations have been pushing family later into life.

People only make you sick because they don't conform to the limited perspective and exigent expectations you place on them. *shrug*

You do realize a condom doesn't substantially reduce the risk of HPV and herpes (though it helps)?

Have to admit you make a good point about the family thing though. With our global population and limited resources it's even better off that way.

What makes me sick is how people are moving to the point there is no emotional attachment to sexual relations with your partner. The problem is how random sex is seen as something as trivial as basketball practice.

[Zero]

Originally Posted by Chuck

You do realize a condom doesn't substantially reduce the risk of HPV and herpes (though it helps)?

If you have sex with more than one person, even as a monogamist, you're still likely to contract HPV at some point. Every sexually active adult will. Herpes to a lesser degree.

What makes me sick is how people are moving to the point there is no emotional attachment to sexual relations with your partner. The problem is how random sex is seen as something as trivial as basketball practice.

There's always an attachment, but attachment is a spectrum. Some people require a lot, others little. So long as both parties consent, have fun, and don't get hurt *unless they uh, want to), it really shouldn't matter to you why people ****. It doesn't speak of their moral character, intelligence, or worth as a person overall. It really only speaks of your judgment.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by aop

Lets see:
-she is 18
-she said she stopped cutting herself 5 years ago
Those points combined mean that she was cutting herself up to age 13. Child neglect anyone?

It's pretty clear she is insane.

Im going to fall in here and say that cutting yourself isnt because you are dumb or insane. Those people have a mental problem and depression and isnt anything to make fun of or see them as less of a human being.
It has nothing to do with neglect.
Many are very intelligent also.

They cut themself to get the endorfin high so that they get away from the depression for a moment.

[Chuck]

Originally Posted by Zero

If you have sex with more than one person, even as a monogamist, you're still likely to contract HPV at some point. Every sexually active adult will. Herpes to a lesser degree.

If both of the people in a relationship is monogamist there is no chance for any sort of STD. Okay, so I understand this a stretch for people nowadays who only know how to indulge in their sexual urges, but the real issue here I think is how people manage their sexual lives (yes it's none of my business just for the sake of discussion).

As ridiculous as I thought this at first (as you can see from that Adanu post a while back), getting tested before sex is really the responsible thing to do. Many don't take the dangers serious enough (or too worried to hurt/scare their partner to ask if they were vaccinated) and don't even consider HPV vaccines to protect their partner. FYI some people don't show warts when they have HPV in their system and certain strands of the virus are the main causes of certain types of cancer. How would you feel if you know you indirectly killed your wife?

There's always an attachment, but attachment is a spectrum. Some people require a lot, others little. So long as both parties consent, have fun, and don't get hurt *unless they uh, want to), it really shouldn't matter to you why people ****. It doesn't speak of their moral character, intelligence, or worth as a person overall. It really only speaks of your judgment.

Apologies man I don't think I worded that correctly. Shouldn't have used the word partner. As long as there is any sort of attachment it should be okay. What I was trying to say is more along the lines of people looking for sexy time without considering the needs/feeling of others. F buddies and one nighters becoming acceptable norms comes to mind.

[Zero]

Originally Posted by Chuck

If both of the people in a relationship is monogamist there is no chance for any sort of STD.

Only if they both never had sex with anyone else prior to that relationship. This really doesn't exist for sexually active adults.

Apologies man I don't think I worded that correctly. Shouldn't have used the word partner. As long as there is any sort of attachment it should be okay. What I was trying to say is more along the lines of people looking for sexy time without considering the needs/feeling of others. F buddies and one nighters becoming acceptable norms comes to mind.

And again, I don't see what business it is of yours.

[Akumajo]

Originally Posted by badboy

Im going to fall in here and say that cutting yourself isnt because you are dumb or insane. Those people have a mental problem and depression and isnt anything to make fun of or see them as less of a human being.
It has nothing to do with neglect.
Many are very intelligent also.

They cut themself to get the endorfin high so that they get away from the depression for a moment.

The main problem is one of those interviews was on "The View" where she stated "she watched porn as a 12 year-old like most people" that statement alone, regardless of how intelligent or feministic she may claim to be is a very crazy statement considering she cuts (if true) and she went on a "facial abuse sub-genre" of porn where she acts a role.

It makes her cross-examination an easy to blame "porn" scapegoat while using the college tuition thing. At this point she may help cause a major witch hunt or cluster fark because of opportunistic law makers.

Plus men are also being exploited here.

Originally Posted by Chuck

If both of the people in a relationship is monogamist there is no chance for any sort of STD. Okay, so I understand this a stretch for people nowadays who only know how to indulge in their sexual urges, but the real issue here I think is how people manage their sexual lives (yes it's none of my business just for the sake of discussion).

As ridiculous as I thought this at first (as you can see from that Adanu post a while back), getting tested before sex is really the responsible thing to do. Many don't take the dangers serious enough (or too worried to hurt/scare their partner to ask if they were vaccinated) and don't even consider HPV vaccines to protect their partner. FYI some people don't show warts when they have HPV in their system and certain strands of the virus are the main causes of certain types of cancer. How would you feel if you know you indirectly killed your wife?



Apologies man I don't think I worded that correctly. Shouldn't have used the word partner. As long as there is any sort of attachment it should be okay. What I was trying to say is more along the lines of people looking for sexy time without considering the needs/feeling of others. F buddies and one nighters becoming acceptable norms comes to mind.

Although its not perfect, modern pornographic industry has to comply with a whole bunch of rules...those rules depend on the worker...it doesn't make sense to compare sex or porn workers with regular private citizens.

Asking a girl or vise versa for an std test is almost like asking for a criminal background check or even a pre-nup.

It's not easy and people aren't perfect....however you mentioned some things as "being more acceptable" where do you get that?

Sure people fifty plus years ago did not have access to computer internet and porn or smartphones...but do you seriously believe that certain people weren't going to private parties or having private get togethers or practising sexual "activities" that were never spoken about specially cause there wasn't an instant gratification of grabbing a photo or upliading it?

Alcohol and other hard drugs were banned over a hundred years ago...there's a lot of stuff you can be aware of if you research it.

[g-a-m-e]

Originally Posted by MasterGoa

I think that fascination with this story is that she
seems to have a very capable brain and that pron
is usually seen as a very last resort for people...
At least it is, on those casting couches...

Some people are just sluts, it's not rocket science ?

Not even judging, i see no problem with it. But i also don't try to come up with far fetched reasons as to why this girl is a slut .

Because like i said, some people are just sluts.

Deal with it.

And so should she , instead of trying to come off as some "super tormented but superinteresting" person rofl .

[wabbitslayer]

all of you...quit over-thinking all this. Go watch some porn or something.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by Akumajo

The main problem is one of those interviews was on "The View" where she stated "she watched porn as a 12 year-old like most people" that statement alone, regardless of how intelligent or feministic she may claim to be is a very crazy statement considering she cuts (if true) and she went on a "facial abuse sub-genre" of porn where she acts a role.



It makes her cross-examination an easy to blame "porn" scapegoat while using the college tuition thing. At this point she may help cause a major witch hunt or cluster fark because of opportunistic law makers.

I watched porn since I was about 10
Does that make me crazy?
Most females here have had sex at 11-14
I dont see how watching porn at 12 is crazy....

[Akumajo]

Originally Posted by badboy

I watched porn since I was about 10
Does that make me crazy?
Most females here have had sex at 11-14
I dont see how watching porn at 12 is crazy....

Did you have a vagina, were eighteen years old and get interviewed in The View?

[Treeckcold57]

Originally Posted by badboy

I watched porn since I was about 10
Does that make me crazy?
Most females here have had sex at 11-14
I dont see how watching porn at 12 is crazy....

So this guy comes from Sweden who loves hot and sexy underage chicks at its best?